Salary Cap could exceed $220 million

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What do our WRs look like when kelce isn’t drawing doubles and triples? Or when he isn’t there to be an automatic catch. If we lose kelce I think we figure out our WR room limitations very very fast. Again, I think we’re mostly there. But every WR needs to bump down one spot. Hell, what did Tennessee do? They limited kelce. And our offense looked completely stuck. Because our WRs right now feel like system guys.

an almost entirely new WR corps, man. In a notoriously complex offense requiring post snap reads and route adjustments from the WR's in real time, on the fly.

I don't think they're 'system guys' so much as they have differing skillsets. You have a couple with incredible long speed in Hardman, MVS.. You have one that's very physical in Juju. You have a couple with elite quickness, with Hardman again, Moore, and Toney. There is some youth there with Moore and Toney, so there's some projection but we're not drafting top 5-we won't get the Jamarr Chase's.

Our problems offensively stem from 1)poor OT play, 2)Mahomes still sometimes will not take the easy outlet pass and 3)a lot of new parts.

Despite all of that, this is a top NFL offense. And Kelce won't just fall off the cliff, barring catastrophic injury. He may slow down, but he's got a long way to go before he's JAG.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

an almost entirely new WR corps, man. In a notoriously complex offense requiring post snap reads and route adjustments from the WR's in real time, on the fly.

I don't think they're 'system guys' so much as they have differing skillsets. You have a couple with incredible long speed in Hardman, MVS.. You have one that's very physical in Juju. You have a couple with elite quickness, with Hardman again, Moore, and Toney. There is some youth there with Moore and Toney, so there's some projection but we're not drafting top 5-we won't get the Jamarr Chase's.

Our problems offensively stem from 1)poor OT play, 2)Mahomes still sometimes will not take the easy outlet pass and 3)a lot of new parts.

Despite all of that, this is a top NFL offense. And Kelce won't just fall off the cliff, barring catastrophic injury. He may slow down, but he's got a long way to go before he's JAG.

Like I said, I think we’ve got great WRs. But the all need to get bumped one position down. Juju is a great possession guy… for a WR that can open it up underneath. MVS is an over the top guy. Skyy is intriguing but likely not a WR1. Hardman and Toney are terrific… within a specific lane. All these guys get significantly better if we have a WR1 who can consistently beat stud CBs like tredavious white.

Most of our offense is run around efficiency so I don’t get the idea that mahomes needs to somehow be way more efficient. You know how burrow gets rid of the ball quickly? Chase quickly beats his man and then throws the ball anywhere remotely near his catch radius. Of course we gotta get better protection and mahomes needs to continue to progress as a pocket qb. We’re doing that. The idea that we need to put all our eggs in that basket for a qb this talented is a waste. We can run an efficient offense and have explosive playmakers at the same time.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Like I said, I think we’ve got great WRs. But the all need to get bumped one position down. Juju is a great possession guy… for a WR that can open it up underneath. MVS is an over the top guy. Skyy is intriguing but likely not a WR1. Hardman and Toney are terrific… within a specific lane. All these guys get significantly better if we have a WR1 who can consistently beat stud CBs like tredavious white.

Most of our offense is run around efficiency so I don’t get the idea that mahomes needs to somehow be way more efficient. You know how burrow gets rid of the ball quickly? Chase quickly beats his man and then throws the ball anywhere remotely near his catch radius. Of course we gotta get better protection and mahomes needs to continue to progress as a pocket qb. We’re doing that. The idea that we need to put all our eggs in that basket for a qb this talented is a waste. We can run an efficient offense and have explosive playmakers at the same time.

Chase was the #5 overall pick. Where are we getting that?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Chase was the #5 overall pick. Where are we getting that?

We’re obviously not getting a chase. But there are guys like DJ Moore or Corey Davis. Or hell, plenty of draft talent. I love our WRs but I don’t think we have a true wr1. Do we have guys you’re comfortable playing man against sauce Gardner or tredavius white? Or hell, now we’re going to have Taylor Britt and eventually awuzie for the bengals. There are defenses out there who are trying to beat our WRs up and prove we can consistently beat man even against the top DBs. Based on what we saw in Tennessee, cincy and buffalo, do we feel this WR corps is up for that task? We know our OL isn’t, but I think mahomes has covered up some of the shortcomings of these WRs. Those games were not as comfortable as we remember and it’s not just because of pass pro.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We’re obviously not getting a chase. But there are guys like DJ Moore or Corey Davis. Or hell, plenty of draft talent. I love our WRs but I don’t think we have a true wr1. Do we have guys you’re comfortable playing man against sauce Gardner or tredavius white? Or hell, now we’re going to have Taylor Britt and eventually awuzie for the bengals. There are defenses out there who are trying to beat our WRs up and prove we can consistently beat man even against the top DBs. Based on what we saw in Tennessee, cincy and buffalo, do we feel this WR corps is up for that task? We know our OL isn’t, but I think mahomes has covered up some of the shortcomings of these WRs. Those games were not as comfortable as we remember and it’s not just because of pass pro.

I'm not even worried about Sauce or White. They can't protect the QB well enough. Until that's fixed, nothing else is going to work well.