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Old 02-15-2023, 05:46 AM  
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Here's Dane Brugler's current top 100 from The Athletic

1. Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia (6-3, 310)
2. Will Anderson Jr., Edge, Alabama (6-4, 245)
3. Bryce Young, QB, Alabama (5-10, 192)
4. Peter Skoronski, OT/G, Northwestern (6-4, 305)
5. Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon (6-2, 200)
6. Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas (6-0, 220)
7. C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State (6-3, 207)
8. Tyree Wilson, Edge, Texas Tech (6-6, 270)
9. Paris Johnson Jr., OT, Ohio State (6-7, 308)
10. Will Levis, QB, Kentucky (6-4, 230)
11. Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State (6-2, 200)
12. Broderick Jones, OT, Georgia (6-4, 315)
13. Myles Murphy, Edge, Clemson (6-5, 273)
14. Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida (6-4, 232)
15. Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois (6-0, 183)
16. Brian Branch, S, Alabama (6-0, 193)
17. Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson (6-5, 316)
18. Lukas Van Ness, Edge, Iowa (6-5, 270)
19. Nolan Smith, Edge, Georgia (6-3, 237)
20. Jordan Addison, WR, USC (6-0, 180)
21. Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama (5-11, 204)
22. Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee (6-0, 188)
23. Drew Sanders, LB, Arkansas (6-5, 232)
24. Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame (6-5, 257)
25. Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU (6-4, 215)
26. Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State (6-1, 193)
27. Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State (6-6, 255)
28. O’Cyrus Torrence, G, Florida (6-5, 337)
29. Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia (6-7, 280)
30. Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah (6-4, 241)
31. Deonte Banks, CB, Maryland (6-0, 207)
32. Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia (6-2, 210)
33. BJ Ojulari, Edge, LSU (6-3, 245)
34. Emmanuel Forbes, CB, Mississippi State (6-0, 174)
35. Calijah Kancey, DT, Pittsburgh (6-0, 275)
36. Trenton Simpson, LB, Clemson (6-3, 234)
37. Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee (6-5, 342)
38. Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan (6-3, 335)
39. Cody Mauch, G/C, North Dakota State (6-5, 305)
40. Keion White, Edge, Georgia Tech (6-5, 280)
41. Steve Avila, G/C, TCU (6-3, 332)
42. Will McDonald IV, Edge, Iowa State (6-4, 241)
43. Joe Tippmann, G/C, Wisconsin (6-6, 315)
44. Devon Achane, RB, Texas A&M (5-9, 185)
45. Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina (5-10, 175)
46. Derick Hall, Edge, Auburn (6-3, 252)
47. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati (5-11, 185)
48. Gervon Dexter Sr., DT, Florida (6-6, 315)
49. Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota State (6-5, 255)
50. John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota (6-3, 306)
51. Cam Smith, CB, South Carolina (6-0, 181)
52. Dawand Jones, OT, Ohio State (6-8, 375)
53. Keeanu Benton, DT, Wisconsin (6-4, 312)
54. Clark Phillips III, CB, Utah (5-10, 185)
55. Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College (5-9, 182)
56. Antonio Johnson, S, Texas A&M (6-3, 195)
57. Siaki Ika, DT, Baylor (6-4, 354)
58. Isaiah Foskey, Edge, Notre Dame (6-5, 252)
59. Tuli Tuipulotu, DT, USC (6-4, 290)
60. Kyu Blu Kelly, CB, Stanford (6-0, 193)
61. Sam LaPorta, TE, Iowa (6-4, 250)
62. Tyrique Stevenson, CB, Miami (Fla.) (6-0, 204)
63. Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma (6-6, 310)
64. Zach Charbonnet, RB, UCLA (6-1, 224)
65. Matthew Bergeron, OT/G, Syracuse (6-5, 323)
66. Zach Harrison, Edge, Ohio State (6-6, 266)
67. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Edge, Kansas State (6-4, 255)
68. Ji’Ayir Brown, S, Penn State (5-11, 210)
69. Wanya Morris, OT, Oklahoma (6-5, 317)
70. Tank Bigsby, RB, Auburn (6-0, 215)
71. Henry To’oTo’o, LB, Alabama (6-1, 230)
72. Jayden Reed, WR, Michigan State (5-11, 191)
73. Jack Campbell, LB, Iowa (6-4, 248)
74. Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee (6-3, 214)
75. Nick Herbig, LB, Wisconsin (6-2, 229)
76. DJ Turner, CB, Michigan (6-0, 180)
77. Parker Washington, WR, Penn State (5-10, 210)
78. Roschon Johnson, RB, Texas (6-1, 219)
79. Darius Rush, CB, South Carolina (6-2, 196)
80. Tyjae Spears, RB, Tulane (5-10, 204)
81. McClendon Curtis, OT/G, Chattanooga (6-6, 331)
82. Daiyan Henley, LB, Washington State (6-1, 230)
83. Christopher Smith, S, Georgia (5-10, 188)
84. Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland (6-6, 298)
85. Mike Morris, Edge, Michigan (6-6, 290)
86. Nathaniel Dell, WR, Houston (5-8, 163)
87. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss (6-0, 215)
88. Andre Carter II, Edge, Army (6-6, 255)
89. Eric Gray, RB, Oklahoma (5-10, 210)
90. Jammie Robinson, S, Florida State (5-11, 194)
91. A.T. Perry, WR, Wake Forest (6-3, 195)
92. Kendre Miller, RB, TCU (6-0, 220)
93. Colby Wooden, DT, Auburn (6-5, 285)
94. Dylan Horton, Edge, TCU (6-4, 275)
95. Braeden Daniels, OT/G, Utah (6-4, 291)
96. Adetomiwa Adebawore, DT, Northwestern (6-2, 284)
97. Xavier Hutchinson, WR, Iowa State (6-2, 207)
98. DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas (6-3, 222)
99. Byron Young, DT, Alabama (6-3, 297)
100. Luke Schoonmaker, TE, Michigan (6-5, 249)
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Old 02-15-2023, 04:30 PM   #31
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If Eagles and Bills both pass on him and he's there at #31, do you take RB Bijan Robinson?
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Old 02-15-2023, 04:39 PM   #32
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If Eagles and Bills both pass on him and he's there at #31, do you take RB Bijan Robinson?
I'd say its a tough call. Imagine how complete our offense would be lol insane! He'd have a great chance of staying healthy here too bc of how often we throw the ball, but that could also diminish his value to us. Let Robinson play primary back and Pachecho as our change of pace guy? Phew, man! I know we have bigger needs elsewhere, but we're also SB Champs and I could just as easily argue BPA in this scenario as I could No RBs in the 1st. As far as RBs in the 1st go, this one feels like as much a sure thing as you're gonna find. Personally, I'd probably prefer an ED, OT, WR or DL but if Veach decided to pull the trigger on Robinson I'd be pretty ****ing excited! Would also be fun to get a star in the 1st this year when the draft is in KC.
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Old 02-15-2023, 06:49 PM   #33
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nah, I'm not taking a RB in the first...like ever again.

We have greater needs, and we've shown we can find guys late and off the scrap heap that can work great in this offense.
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Old 02-15-2023, 06:53 PM   #34
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nah, I'm not taking a RB in the first...like ever again.

We have greater needs, and we've shown we can find guys late and off the scrap heap that can work great in this offense.
Especially in this offense. You really just need to have someone who poses a credible threat to run. You definitely don't need someone to carry the ball 30 times a game. Drafting him in the 1st would waste his rookie contract here.
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:08 PM   #35
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nah, I'm not taking a RB in the first...like ever again.

We have greater needs, and we've shown we can find guys late and off the scrap heap that can work great in this offense.
Only RB I would take would be looking to eventually replace McKinnon and those type of guys can be found in later rounds/UDFA.
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This is a very deep RB class. I'm all for taking one on day 3.
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:43 PM   #37
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Looking over this list, kccrow, answer me this.

All things being equal, knowing that we can't know who is on the board at 31, grade the following hypothetical draft picks the Chiefs hypothetically make at 31:

RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
WR Quenton Johnston, TCU
WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati
DT Calijah Kancey, Pittsburgh
DT Mazi Smith, Michigan
DE Lukas Van Ness, Iowa
DE Keoin White, Georgia Tech

Again, all things being equal.

These are some guys I've waffled on as a good pick at 31, wanted to know your thoughts.
In this scenario, I take WR Quenton Johnston, TCU hands down. It is frustrating because we have sooooo many other needs but man, what a player.
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Only RB I would take would be looking to eventually replace McKinnon and those type of guys can be found in later rounds/UDFA.
Dunno why, but I really like throwing a 7th at Evan Hull, RB from Northwestern. He's got a lot of experience in the screen game, and is a real north/south runner that is quick (not fast), has decent lateral quickness, and is fairly strong. Dude is never going to house a run or screen, but he will get you solid chunks of yards and keep the chains moving.

Also, where's the love for Foskey? Dude is my favorite realistic ER in this draft. If we could figure out how to get him and Hyatt/Scott/Johnston in the 1st and 2nd rounds and follow up with a OT or DT in the third, I'd be doing cartwheels.
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Some later round RBs I'm interested in...

Sean Tucker: Reminds me a lot of McKinnon, very direct with his movement and catches the ball well. Some have him as the #3 back in the draft, others later. Maybe he goes in the 3rd or 4th. Smaller frame, quick feat, decisive.

Lew Nichols: He's not burner, but a solid and steady runner. Kind of reminds me of Rojo, led the nation last year with 1,850 yards running and another 320 yards catching for 16 TDs. Great in the screen game. For whatever reason he's not expected to be drafted very high, late round rb.

Hunter Luepke: THIS is my top choice. I think Andy would love this guy, he's a FB/HB that can run like an RB, block like a FB, but especially catch like a TE! Remember Kareem Hunt on those wheel routes, that's this guy. He's a late round rb.
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If Eagles and Bills both pass on him and he's there at #31, do you take RB Bijan Robinson?
Take his teammate, Roschon Johnson, in the third.

Roschon was originally a QB at Texas before converting to RB, which could give us some interesting looks in short yardage plays.

He's also a pretty powerful downhill back, who hit 21 MPH a couple times this season, and has picked up a bit of wiggle in his game as he matured as a runner.

Combine that with him not having as much tread on his tires from being Bijan's back up and I think he's going to be a player who outperforms his draft stock.
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I'll also just mention, this is the farthest down a respectable draft board I've seen Andre Carter, by like 50 slots.

A 6'7" monster with plus athleticism, great work ethic, and maximal coachability? At 88?
He looked really weak at the Senior Bowl apparently and strugled badly so imagine that would be why. I think he will be a 3rd round pick.
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nah, I'm not taking a RB in the first...like ever again.

We have greater needs, and we've shown we can find guys late and off the scrap heap that can work great in this offense.
Never ever ever again.
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He looked really weak at the Senior Bowl apparently and strugled badly so imagine that would be why. I think he will be a 3rd round pick.
You look at the tools. Does he have the tools.

Does he have plus athleticism and length? Yup. Does he have a motor and work ethic? Yup.

If you put in him an NFL strength and conditioning program, what kind of guy do you have by Year 3?

If your answer is the same as mine, then that's a guy I think you draft at #31.
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You look at the tools. Does he have the tools.

Does he have plus athleticism and length? Yup. Does he have a motor and work ethic? Yup.

If you put in him an NFL strength and conditioning program, what kind of guy do you have by Year 3?

If your answer is the same as mine, then that's a guy I think you draft at #31.
I am not doubting that but apparently he looked tiny which is bound to spook some people.
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Never ever ever again.
I mean...maybe if you don't have a QB, but really, in that case, you should be taking a QB.
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