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Old 03-19-2025, 06:41 PM  
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Scientists map massive underground structures beneath the Giza Pyramid

Going 650 METERS BELOW

WITH ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES EVEN FARTHER DOWN!

This is crazy. Clearly an alien base.







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Old 03-19-2025, 11:19 PM   #31
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There’s no way the Egyptians could have done this without help. Nearly half a mile underground? To chambers?

Call me a conspiracy theorist but if this is true then someone had to have helped them.
Sure they could have.

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Pulleys. Ropes. Sleds.

Very reasonable.
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Old 03-19-2025, 11:49 PM   #32
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Sure they could have.

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Pulleys. Ropes. Sleds.

Very reasonable.
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Old 03-20-2025, 07:24 AM   #33
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You would be surprised what you can do with 100,000 slaves and whips
Don't think the pyramids were built with slaves. I think that was some b******* somebody said 100 years ago. Either way I don't think we actually know that.
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Old 03-20-2025, 07:36 AM   #34
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Sure they could have.

Threats of violence if not compliant.

Pulleys. Ropes. Sleds.

Very reasonable.
And literal DECADES in which to get it done.

The idea that humans couldn't have built things on that scale is just nutty to me. Of course they could've. The only thing I find particularly impressive is the precision.

But then you look at how Eratosthenes managed to calculate the circumference of the earth within about 100 miles using nothing more than a couple of shadows, a well and some AP Geography level math and you realize that these ****ers were smart.

And they didn't have a lot to do. There weren't doing a lot of doom scrolling to fritter their days away.

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.
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Old 03-20-2025, 07:48 AM   #35
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Heh. I think I watched that same vid on YouTube. You could tell it was bad, especially the guy on the camel.

I’m fascinated with that stuff and it’s a bucket list trip for sure
I used to want to go there badly. But I don’t want to subject my wife to all the creeps over there. Saw a video where I girl had shorts on, and the taxi driver was literally staring at them nonstop the whole ride.
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Old 03-20-2025, 08:12 AM   #38
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And literal DECADES in which to get it done.

The idea that humans couldn't have built things on that scale is just nutty to me. Of course they could've. The only thing I find particularly impressive is the precision.

But then you look at how Eratosthenes managed to calculate the circumference of the earth within about 100 miles using nothing more than a couple of shadows, a well and some AP Geography level math and you realize that these ****ers were smart.

And they didn't have a lot to do. There weren't doing a lot of doom scrolling to fritter their days away.

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.
Exactly this.

We are constantly discovering new evidence that proves ancient people were a lot smarter than we thought. How did they build the pyramids? How did Danes and Norsemen make it to Newfoundland in what amounts to modern day fishing boats? There's hundreds of examples in history of human ingenuity far beyond anything we previously believed.
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And literal DECADES in which to get it done.

The idea that humans couldn't have built things on that scale is just nutty to me. Of course they could've. The only thing I find particularly impressive is the precision.

But then you look at how Eratosthenes managed to calculate the circumference of the earth within about 100 miles using nothing more than a couple of shadows, a well and some AP Geography level math and you realize that these ****ers were smart.

And they didn't have a lot to do. There weren't doing a lot of doom scrolling to fritter their days away.

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.
Important Note, nature has always been and always will be, more precise than human touch. Erosion is a sweat sob.
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In, “The Giza Death Star,” Joseph Farrell proposed that the Great Pyramid of Giza was a weapon of mass destruction using a type of physics, that he calls “paleophysics,” to focus energy as a scalar weapon.
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People seem to dismiss that the higher the structure, the further from the base edge you are.
Fact: 25 ton blocks (forget the larger ones, which are nearly 80 tons) can't be moved rollers/sleds at greater angles than 10 degrees. You could build a perimeter ramp for a few levels, but the materials required to build a ramp system from ground entry to the top of the structure, all at 10 degrees or less, would be a creation several times that of the pyramid. You would start your uphill journey more than a mile away...can you imagine building a mountain (of mostly sand?) strong enough to hold thousands of workers and hundreds of tons of equipment and granite blocks just to build another mountain made of block?

How could the pharoah afford that? Quarrrying, transporting, loading/offloading, ramp duty, sled construction, pulley-level-crane maintenance staff, rope-making team...and most importantly, the staff to feed and water several thousands. Who would be left to work the fields and staff the world's greatest military of its time? Egypt was already susceptible to famines and plagues, would the pharaoh and a "willing" work force spend decades building a vanity project knowing that leaving the fields could result in starvation?
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People seem to dismiss that the higher the structure, the further from the base edge you are.
Fact: 25 ton blocks (forget the larger ones, which are nearly 80 tons) can't be moved rollers/sleds at greater angles than 10 degrees. You could build a perimeter ramp for a few levels, but the materials required to build a ramp system from ground entry to the top of the structure, all at 10 degrees or less, would be a creation several times that of the pyramid. You would start your uphill journey more than a mile away...can you imagine building a mountain (of mostly sand?) strong enough to hold thousands of workers and hundreds of tons of equipment and granite blocks just to build another mountain made of block?

How could the pharoah afford that? Quarrrying, transporting, loading/offloading, ramp duty, sled construction, pulley-level-crane maintenance staff, rope-making team...and most importantly, the staff to feed and water several thousands. Who would be left to work the fields and staff the world's greatest military of its time? Egypt was already susceptible to famines and plagues, would the pharaoh and a "willing" work force spend decades building a vanity project knowing that leaving the fields could result in starvation?
You've obviously never been to central Europe. It's littered with castles of lesser lords that couldn't afford them. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Read up on the Sabeans (Sheba). They built structures unbelievable at the time including massive dams.
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Exactly this.

We are constantly discovering new evidence that proves ancient people were a lot smarter than we thought. How did they build the pyramids? How did Danes and Norsemen make it to Newfoundland in what amounts to modern day fishing boats? There's hundreds of examples in history of human ingenuity far beyond anything we previously believed.
Which was just comically arrogant of us.

Exceptionally intelligent people have always existed. And as a fairly firm believer in the 'great man' theory, I do think most moments that shape humanity came about as a result of just a handful of brilliant people who were in the right place at the right time.

I mean agrarian society is one that I point to a lot. You look at certain grasses/wheats and they have drought protection mechanisms that mean only 1 in 5 or so seeds actually germinate in a year. They didn't know that then.

So they have 100 people in their village and they plant enough wheat seeds for 100 of them....20% of those germinate and half the village starves to death.

In most cases that probably ended things. They went back to hunting and gathering.

At some point then there was one guy who said "Nah, we're gonna try this again..." and they powered through and made it work. And suddenly agriculture was born.

There has always been brilliance in the world. Doggedness. Industriousness. And there's always been lazy and/or simply mediocre and forgettable.

Why should we have EVER believed that there weren't people who were absolutely as innately intelligent as anyone we have on the planet today. And as such would have problem-solving skills that rival anything we see in modern times. They use the tools at their disposal but as brilliant people they could make those tools do some pretty remarkable things.
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People seem to dismiss that the higher the structure, the further from the base edge you are.
Fact: 25 ton blocks (forget the larger ones, which are nearly 80 tons) can't be moved rollers/sleds at greater angles than 10 degrees. You could build a perimeter ramp for a few levels, but the materials required to build a ramp system from ground entry to the top of the structure, all at 10 degrees or less, would be a creation several times that of the pyramid. You would start your uphill journey more than a mile away...can you imagine building a mountain (of mostly sand?) strong enough to hold thousands of workers and hundreds of tons of equipment and granite blocks just to build another mountain made of block?

How could the pharoah afford that? Quarrrying, transporting, loading/offloading, ramp duty, sled construction, pulley-level-crane maintenance staff, rope-making team...and most importantly, the staff to feed and water several thousands. Who would be left to work the fields and staff the world's greatest military of its time? Egypt was already susceptible to famines and plagues, would the pharaoh and a "willing" work force spend decades building a vanity project knowing that leaving the fields could result in starvation?
There are two seasons where not as many workers are needed out in the fields: summer and winter. That is when the Pyramids were built. Egypt never had the best military and the fact it had rather hard to cross deserts surrounding it lead to it not being threatened all that much.

Also, the blocks are not uniform with the ones higher up being smaller than the ones at the base.

Pyramids are from the Old Kingdom period which is strictly bronze age. So the military was a warrior elite, who could afford bronze weapons and armor, and a bunch of lightly armed and armored archers, slingers, and skirmishers.
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Which was just comically arrogant of us.

Exceptionally intelligent people have always existed. And as a fairly firm believer in the 'great man' theory, I do think most moments that shape humanity came about as a result of just a handful of brilliant people who were in the right place at the right time.

I mean agrarian society is one that I point to a lot. You look at certain grasses/wheats and they have drought protection mechanisms that mean only 1 in 5 or so seeds actually germinate in a year. They didn't know that then.

So they have 100 people in their village and they plant enough wheat seeds for 100 of them....20% of those germinate and half the village starves to death.

In most cases that probably ended things. They went back to hunting and gathering.

At some point then there was one guy who said "Nah, we're gonna try this again..." and they powered through and made it work. And suddenly agriculture was born.

There has always been brilliance in the world. Doggedness. Industriousness. And there's always been lazy and/or simply mediocre and forgettable.

Why should we have EVER believed that there weren't people who were absolutely as innately intelligent as anyone we have on the planet today. And as such would have problem-solving skills that rival anything we see in modern times. They use the tools at their disposal but as brilliant people they could make those tools do some pretty remarkable things.
Indeed. I was reading about how Mayan plazas were constructed. They actually built them with a 1 degree tilt to funnel rainwater into canals which lead to irrigation cisterns. Amazing feat of engineering and precision.
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