Scientists map massive underground structures beneath the Giza Pyramid

[RunKC]

There’s no way the Egyptians could have done this without help. Nearly half a mile underground? To chambers?

Call me a conspiracy theorist but if this is true then someone had to have helped them.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

There’s no way the Egyptians could have done this without help. Nearly half a mile underground? To chambers?

Call me a conspiracy theorist but if this is true then someone had to have helped them.

Sure they could have.

Threats of violence if not compliant.

Pulleys. Ropes. Sleds.

Very reasonable.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Sure they could have.

Threats of violence if not compliant.

Pulleys. Ropes. Sleds.

Very reasonable.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Sure they could have.

Threats of violence if not compliant.

Pulleys. Ropes. Sleds.

Very reasonable.

And literal DECADES in which to get it done.

The idea that humans couldn't have built things on that scale is just nutty to me. Of course they could've. The only thing I find particularly impressive is the precision.

But then you look at how Eratosthenes managed to calculate the circumference of the earth within about 100 miles using nothing more than a couple of shadows, a well and some AP Geography level math and you realize that these ****ers were smart.

And they didn't have a lot to do. There weren't doing a lot of doom scrolling to fritter their days away.

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And literal DECADES in which to get it done.

The idea that humans couldn't have built things on that scale is just nutty to me. Of course they could've. The only thing I find particularly impressive is the precision.

But then you look at how Eratosthenes managed to calculate the circumference of the earth within about 100 miles using nothing more than a couple of shadows, a well and some AP Geography level math and you realize that these ****ers were smart.

And they didn't have a lot to do. There weren't doing a lot of doom scrolling to fritter their days away.

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.

Exactly this.

We are constantly discovering new evidence that proves ancient people were a lot smarter than we thought. How did they build the pyramids? How did Danes and Norsemen make it to Newfoundland in what amounts to modern day fishing boats? There's hundreds of examples in history of human ingenuity far beyond anything we previously believed.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Exactly this.

We are constantly discovering new evidence that proves ancient people were a lot smarter than we thought. How did they build the pyramids? How did Danes and Norsemen make it to Newfoundland in what amounts to modern day fishing boats? There's hundreds of examples in history of human ingenuity far beyond anything we previously believed.

Which was just comically arrogant of us.

Exceptionally intelligent people have always existed. And as a fairly firm believer in the 'great man' theory, I do think most moments that shape humanity came about as a result of just a handful of brilliant people who were in the right place at the right time.

I mean agrarian society is one that I point to a lot. You look at certain grasses/wheats and they have drought protection mechanisms that mean only 1 in 5 or so seeds actually germinate in a year. They didn't know that then.

So they have 100 people in their village and they plant enough wheat seeds for 100 of them....20% of those germinate and half the village starves to death.

In most cases that probably ended things. They went back to hunting and gathering.

At some point then there was one guy who said "Nah, we're gonna try this again..." and they powered through and made it work. And suddenly agriculture was born.

There has always been brilliance in the world. Doggedness. Industriousness. And there's always been lazy and/or simply mediocre and forgettable.

Why should we have EVER believed that there weren't people who were absolutely as innately intelligent as anyone we have on the planet today. And as such would have problem-solving skills that rival anything we see in modern times. They use the tools at their disposal but as brilliant people they could make those tools do some pretty remarkable things.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Which was just comically arrogant of us.

Exceptionally intelligent people have always existed. And as a fairly firm believer in the 'great man' theory, I do think most moments that shape humanity came about as a result of just a handful of brilliant people who were in the right place at the right time.

I mean agrarian society is one that I point to a lot. You look at certain grasses/wheats and they have drought protection mechanisms that mean only 1 in 5 or so seeds actually germinate in a year. They didn't know that then.

So they have 100 people in their village and they plant enough wheat seeds for 100 of them....20% of those germinate and half the village starves to death.

In most cases that probably ended things. They went back to hunting and gathering.

At some point then there was one guy who said "Nah, we're gonna try this again..." and they powered through and made it work. And suddenly agriculture was born.

There has always been brilliance in the world. Doggedness. Industriousness. And there's always been lazy and/or simply mediocre and forgettable.

Why should we have EVER believed that there weren't people who were absolutely as innately intelligent as anyone we have on the planet today. And as such would have problem-solving skills that rival anything we see in modern times. They use the tools at their disposal but as brilliant people they could make those tools do some pretty remarkable things.

Indeed. I was reading about how Mayan plazas were constructed. They actually built them with a 1 degree tilt to funnel rainwater into canals which lead to irrigation cisterns. Amazing feat of engineering and precision.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Exactly this.

We are constantly discovering new evidence that proves ancient people were a lot smarter than we thought. How did they build the pyramids? How did Danes and Norsemen make it to Newfoundland in what amounts to modern day fishing boats? There's hundreds of examples in history of human ingenuity far beyond anything we previously believed.

“The Great Pyramid of Giza exhibits a remarkable alignment with the cardinal points (north, south, east, and west), with its sides deviating only a fraction of a degree”

These guys were incredibly accurate and precise. They had to have been significantly smarter than we ever gave them credit for. Of course we are technologically smart, but they understand math and physics as well as we do.

A chamber dug nearly half a mile beneath the Earth is an incredible feat. It’s unbelievable for their time. I’m not saying Aliens helped them bc I don’t believe in Aliens.

I hope they can find a way to get down there via drone of other technology. I’m fascinated to see what the hell could be down there.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And literal DECADES in which to get it done.

The idea that humans couldn't have built things on that scale is just nutty to me. Of course they could've. The only thing I find particularly impressive is the precision.

But then you look at how Eratosthenes managed to calculate the circumference of the earth within about 100 miles using nothing more than a couple of shadows, a well and some AP Geography level math and you realize that these ****ers were smart.

And they didn't have a lot to do. There weren't doing a lot of doom scrolling to fritter their days away.

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.

Important Note, nature has always been and always will be, more precise than human touch. Erosion is a sweat sob.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And literal DECADES in which to get it done.

The idea that humans couldn't have built things on that scale is just nutty to me. Of course they could've. The only thing I find particularly impressive is the precision.

But then you look at how Eratosthenes managed to calculate the circumference of the earth within about 100 miles using nothing more than a couple of shadows, a well and some AP Geography level math and you realize that these ****ers were smart.

And they didn't have a lot to do. There weren't doing a lot of doom scrolling to fritter their days away.

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.

I saw a clip from some stupid Ancient Aliens type show as I was flipping through the channels. I heard the narrator say, "How did these ancient civilizations of the Ganges construct such impressive structures without an understanding of advanced mathematics and engineering?"

Uhh... they used advanced mathematics and engineering. In fact, they probably invented/developed several of the concepts independently.

[myselff77]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Human history is pretty long and there were a whole lot of really bright people mixed in with all the stupid that came along the way. Yeah, they absolutely could've made these calculations and oftentimes did to levels of certainty that are on par with what we're capable of with modern technology.

But what did they do to fix the sluggishness of their servers and keep the bots away? Let's learn from them.

[ThrobProng]

In, “The Giza Death Star,” Joseph Farrell proposed that the Great Pyramid of Giza was a weapon of mass destruction using a type of physics, that he calls “paleophysics,” to focus energy as a scalar weapon.