New NFLdraftcountdown Mock... SUX!

[tyton75]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

1st round: Clady
2nd round: Patrick Lee - CB

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Let me ask this :

Do YOU think Clady is a better player than Gholston?

I have no idea. I haven't seen enough of Clady. I saw a few minutes of the Hawaii game and he didn't look that good. I saw the Boise State bowl game and he looked very good in pass protection and good against the run. I thought Ohio State's entire defense, including Gholston, got owned against LSU. I think Gholston could be an impact player if a team used him like the Chargers use Merriman. I'm not so sure I'm sold on Gholston being a down lineman in a 4-3 against the run.

[Chiefmanwillcatch]

VERNON GHOLSTON

Trade Jared Allen.

[Mecca]

LSU's entire gameplan was to take Gholston out of the game.....he was the player they were concerned with.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Chiefmanwillgetyou

VERNON GHOLSTON

Trade Jared Allen.

Yeah lets trade quite possibly the best DE in the game... That'll make us a better team.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mecca

LSU's entire gameplan was to take Gholston out of the game.....he was the player they were concerned with.

I think they were pretty concerned, and effective, at taking that Lauranitis(sp?) out of the game as well...

[htismaqe]

LSU's offensive gameplan was designed to take Gholston out of the game. Hence the emphasis on draw plays and using Hester from an H-back set.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I think they were pretty concerned, and effective, at taking that Lauranitis(sp?) out of the game as well...

He just didn't play very well, their gameplan was designed for Gholston.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by findthedr

and yet gameplans are designed for JA and he still had 14.5 sacks and was disruptive. Elite players are able to rise above gameplans. Sounds like you are making a good argument that Gholston is not an Elite player worthy of a top 5 pick.

Don't be stupid. You wonder why you are a laughing stock on this board. You start with some somewhat reasonable stances, but then you say something like this. EVERY team in the NFL thinks Gholston is an Elite player, and it is likely he will be gone by the time we draft at 5 anyway.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by findthedr

thats what the minions said about dorsey and ellis and it appears that their draft stock is falling.

dont be stupid. we will know who is correct during the draft.

So, who exactly do you think are the top 5 picks if all three Ellis, Dorsey and Gholston aren't?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

So, who exactly do you think are the top 5 picks if all three Ellis, Dorsey and Gholston aren't?

Jake Long and his five sisters...

Gholston will probably be gone by the time we pick anyway so it isn't a huge deal, but his arguments are corny as hell...

[Mecca]

Those are the top 3 players in the draft........I'm talking about Gholston because this is a Gholston thread.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by findthedr

that is essentially what we would be doing if we pick up Gholton or Chris Long. Levi Brown got a 6yr/62million contract last yr w// $18million guaranteed at the 5th spot. This yrs 5th player will get slightly more. Jared Allen will require slightly more. Thats alot of salary space for a rotational DE, unless he is a replacement for JA.

Right now, Jared Allen is on a ONE YEAR deal OPTION to be offered a guaranteed as the top DEs for only ONE YEAR, that's only if some team isn't willing to give up the appropriate picks for him. We could actually end up LOSING him, so cementing JA as the future at this point, is futile at best, add the feud with Carl and it's easy to see how this could far from being resolved.

Next, your putting Tamba Hali as the elite RE that he isn't. He's a decent player who could still improve, but he's far from cementing the position for years to come. Passing on a player like Gholston because you have Hali is like passing on Adrian Peterson when you have Chester Taylor, you don't do it if you value impact players.

Gholston is an elite player and impact player. He UPGRADES our defense-isn't that what the draft is for? According to you the draft is for need. Thanks Gretz, but it isn't.

[Mecca]

Because it's a mock and not a board.......projecting who you think teams will pick and doing a board are different things.

I enjoy how you called me a dumbass after the shit you've said.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Right now, Jared Allen is on a ONE YEAR deal OPTION to be offered a guaranteed as the top DEs for only ONE YEAR, that's only if some team isn't willing to give up the appropriate picks for him. We could actually end up LOSING him, so cementing JA as the future at this point, is futile at best, add the feud with Carl and it's easy to see how this could far from being resolved.

Next, your putting Tamba Hali as the elite RE that he isn't. He's a decent player who could still improve, but he's far from cementing the position for years to come. Passing on a player like Gholston because you have Hali is like passing on Adrian Peterson when you have Chester Taylor, you don't do it if you value impact players.

Gholston is an elite player and impact player. He UPGRADES our defense-isn't that what the draft is for? According to you the draft is for need. Thanks Gretz, but it isn't.

SHHH, we have to take an LT or it's a bad draft to him.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Mecca

SHHH, we have to take an LT or it's a bad draft to him.

Highlander.

There can only be one.