New NFLdraftcountdown Mock... SUX! - Page 2

tyton75 · 02-27-2008, 10:07 AM

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

1st round: Clady
2nd round: Patrick Lee - CB

raybec 4 · 02-27-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Speaking of potential reaches.....

5. Kansas City — Chiefs officials say they are looking hard at offensive tackle, cornerback and wide receiver, in that order, and will reach for an OT if they can't move down. We hear the preferred OT choice of Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards is Pittsburgh OLT Jeff Otah.

http://www.profootballweekly.c...08/wwhi2301.htm

I believe that officially links the Chiefs to every potential first round lineman. The team would have us believe it's OT or bust

raybec 4 · 02-27-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Speaking of potential reaches.....

5. Kansas City — Chiefs officials say they are looking hard at offensive tackle, cornerback and wide receiver, in that order, and will reach for an OT if they can't move down. We hear the preferred OT choice of Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards is Pittsburgh OLT Jeff Otah.

http://www.profootballweekly.c...08/wwhi2301.htm

I believe that officially links the Chiefs to every potential first round lineman. The team would have us believe it's OT or bust

Chiefnj2 · 02-27-2008, 10:55 AM

People are getting carried away with calling Clady a reach. Almost all of the boards that I've seen have him ranked in the top 10 of all players in the draft. You may not like him, but that doesn't mean he's a reach.

chagrin · 02-27-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

People are getting carried away with calling Clady a reach. Almost all of the boards that I've seen have him ranked in the top 10 of all players in the draft. You may not like him, but that doesn't mean he's a reach.

these boards you speak of, are stupid

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-27-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

People are getting carried away with calling Clady a reach. Almost all of the boards that I've seen have him ranked in the top 10 of all players in the draft. You may not like him, but that doesn't mean he's a reach.

Guess it depends on your personal definition of "reach."

Passing on better players based on need equals reach to me.

Using this mock as an example, we'd be passing on better players in Ellis, Gholston and McFadden.

Micjones · 02-27-2008, 11:09 AM

I wouldn't mind this so much if we traded down to draft Clady.
That way we get Lee and another player in Round Two.

Chiefnj2 · 02-27-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Guess it depends on your personal definition of "reach."

Passing on better players based on need equals reach to me.

Using this mock as an example, we'd be passing on better players in Ellis, Gholston and McFadden.

It depends on how you define and analyze "better players." Some "experts" are saying McFadden shouldn't be taken in the top 20.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-27-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It depends on how you define and analyze "better players." Some "experts" are saying McFadden shouldn't be taken in the top 20.

Mayock is the only one I've seen that's said that, and he makes good points about his legs going dead on contact, the fumbles and the off-the-field issues.

So for sake of argument, let's take McFadden out of the equation.

Have you read anything that would insinuate Clady being a better player than Ellis or Gholston?

Because I sure haven't.

Every talent board (not mock) I've read has Clady no higher than 7, and I'm yet to see a board that has him ahead of Ellis or Gholston.

Chiefnj2 · 02-27-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Mayock is the only one I've seen that's said that, and he makes good points about his legs going dead on contact, the fumbles and the off-the-field issues.

So for sake of argument, let's take McFadden out of the equation.

Have you read anything that would insinuate Clady being a better player than Ellis or Gholston?

Because I sure haven't.

Every talent board (not mock) I've read has Clady no higher than 7, and I'm yet to see a board that has him ahead of Ellis or Gholston.

ESPN/Scout's INC has Clady ahead of Gholston.

Is it really a reach to take him even if Ellis was ranked 6th and Clady was ranked 7th? One spot on ranking sheets makes a "reach"?

chagrin · 02-27-2008, 11:57 AM

Who did Frisco get that gave NE the 7th fuggin pick?

Brock · 02-27-2008, 12:02 PM

joe road grader staley

raybec 4 · 02-27-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chagrin

Who did Frisco get that gave NE the 7th fuggin pick?

1st rounder last year they used to get Joe Staley

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-27-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

ESPN/Scout's INC has Clady ahead of Gholston.

Is it really a reach to take him even if Ellis was ranked 6th and Clady was ranked 7th? One spot on ranking sheets makes a "reach"?

That's one out of hundreds. I could pick out several that have mentioned Gholston as the #1 overall pick. It's kinda pointless anyway, seeing as how the only thing that matters is how each TEAM rates these guys. And I have a hard time believing that ANY team in the league would have Clady ahead of Gholston on their board.

Let me ask this :

Do YOU think Clady is a better player than Gholston?

Eleazar · 02-27-2008, 12:04 PM

the "Carl" move would not be to reach at #5, it would be to trade down, all the way out of the first round, and then pick a bunch of tweeners/reaches/cheap signings in rounds 2-7

raybec 4 · 02-27-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

the "Carl" move would not be to reach at #5, it would be to trade down, all the way out of the first round, and then pick a bunch of tweeners/reaches/cheap signings in rounds 2-7

Would he at least get the proper number of tweener/reaches/cheap signings for the value of a number 5? The last time we traded out of the first we ended up with that waste of space Siavii

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