Chiefs So are you willing to give Herm and Carl a "Do over" ? - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 10-13-2008, 06:31 PM

Just curious....

Maybe if the Chiefs had drafted a decent QB like Ryan, things might be different.

Look at how quickly Atlanta and Miami have turned things around.

Can Herm and Carl learn from their mistakes?? Would you be down with that, or reject it?

**TrebMaxx** · 10-13-2008, 09:24 PM

Miami and Atlanta have zero input in my answer, they are irrelevant to our situation. Hell ****ing no. Carl has had his time, no more comment is needed where he is concerned. Herm coaches a B.S. chicken sh*t game. Even with what we have as team at this point, which I think we have more talent than last years team, the end product is even worse. You put that on the coaching staff. I never expected playoffs this season. Really not even 4+ wins, but the way the direction of this team is going is way below bad. This team plays worse than a bad NFL team. It would also be nice if Clark H. would step up and at least make a statement that what he has seen is unacceptable and start to put some a little heat on this joke of a coaching staff and front office.

**banyon** · 10-13-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

How exactly were we supposed to pick Ryan when he was selected 2 spots before us?

And for those of you who say, "we should have traded up," do you even know what that would have cost?

I do.

900 points in value to move from the 5th pick to the 2nd.

So, we would have had to give up our 1st, 2nd and TWO of our three 3rd round picks.

All for a guy 90% of this board would be bitching about because he wouldn't have the time to throw, the strong running game or receivers to benefit him that he has in Atlanta.

Who said we should have traded up to get Ryan?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-13-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Who said we should have traded up to get Ryan?

Partly a pre-emptive strike, but do you not read this board?

I don't have the time, nor the desire to use our archaic search function to find posts to answer your question.

I know Mecca has mentioned it, then again, he's still wondering why we didn't pick Cromartie...

There are plenty, trust me - or don't.

TEX · 10-13-2008, 09:33 PM

**** NO! Those fools thought they had something in Brodie Croyle -

They also thought they had a right side of an OL and a #2 WR. They're so bad that thier HOF player wants out. They could NOT have blown this deal any worse than they have. They need to be fired now.

I bet anything Clark gives then a "do-over" .

TEX · 10-13-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Partly a pre-emptive strike, but do you not read this board?

I don't have the time, nor the desire to use our archaic search function to find posts to answer your question.

I know Mecca has mentioned it, then again, he's still wondering why we didn't pick Cromartie...

There are plenty, trust me - or don't.

Wasn't Cromartie picked just ahead of where KC picked?

88TG88 · 10-13-2008, 09:37 PM

**banyon** · 10-13-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Partly a pre-emptive strike, but do you not read this board?

I don't have the time, nor the desire to use our archaic search function to find posts to answer your question.

I know Mecca has mentioned it, then again, he's still wondering why we didn't pick Cromartie...

There are plenty, trust me - or don't.

Ok, I misunderstood and thought it was partly directed at my comment or the OP.

The only point of my post was just to show how piss poor Peterson continues to be at talent evaluation.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-13-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Wasn't Cromartie picked just ahead of where KC picked?

My point exactly.

PRIEST · 10-13-2008, 09:44 PM

I do not see how he gets to finish the season much less come back next year

Mecca · 10-13-2008, 09:45 PM

I will pretty much say we should have moved for Cromartie he was 1 pick ahead when we were picking like 18th that isn't anything to move...

The Ryan argument has more to do with everyone who absolutely did not want him and said he was elevated do to a bad class. Or said he was no better a prospect than Croyle..that's more a comment on peoples lack of an ability to judge a QB than it is saying we should have traded.

Going into that draft there were a ton of people that wouldn't have wanted Ryan if he was on the board or not...that is the point.

Frazod · 10-13-2008, 09:47 PM

**** those clowns. No do-over. GET OUT

Deberg_1990 · 10-13-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I will pretty much say we should have moved for Cromartie he was 1 pick ahead when we were picking like 18th that isn't anything to move...

The Ryan argument has more to do with everyone who absolutely did not want him and said he was elevated do to a bad class. Or said he was no better a prospect than Croyle..that's more a comment on peoples lack of an ability to judge a QB than it is saying we should have traded.

Going into that draft there were a ton of people that wouldn't have wanted Ryan if he was on the board or not...that is the point.

Yea pretty much.

I will stick by my thread that we should have drafted Rodgers over DJ in 05. No doubt about it.

Coach · 10-13-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I will pretty much say we should have moved for Cromartie he was 1 pick ahead when we were picking like 18th that isn't anything to move...

The Ryan argument has more to do with everyone who absolutely did not want him and said he was elevated do to a bad class. Or said he was no better a prospect than Croyle..that's more a comment on peoples lack of an ability to judge a QB than it is saying we should have traded.

Going into that draft there were a ton of people that wouldn't have wanted Ryan if he was on the board or not...that is the point.

Wouldn't matter. Even if the Chiefs did get Ryan, he wouldn't get any playing time at all, and if he did, he'd be already ruined by this shitty-assed coaching staff.

Mecca · 10-13-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Wouldn't matter. Even if the Chiefs did get Ryan, he wouldn't get any playing time at all, and if he did, he'd be already ruined by this shitty-assed coaching staff.

I guess every player we drafted this past year is going to be a complete bust then.

Hammock Parties · 10-13-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

**** those clowns. No do-over. GET OUT

10-13-2008, 06:31 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $94454	So are you willing to give Herm and Carl a "Do over" ? Just curious.... Maybe if the Chiefs had drafted a decent QB like Ryan, things might be different. Look at how quickly Atlanta and Miami have turned things around. Can Herm and Carl learn from their mistakes?? Would you be down with that, or reject it?
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10-13-2008, 09:24 PM	#46
TrebMaxx Supporter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Peoples Republic of CoMo Casino cash: $-2432748	Miami and Atlanta have zero input in my answer, they are irrelevant to our situation. Hell ***ing no. Carl has had his time, no more comment is needed where he is concerned. Herm coaches a B.S. chicken sht game. Even with what we have as team at this point, which I think we have more talent than last years team, the end product is even worse. You put that on the coaching staff. I never expected playoffs this season. Really not even 4+ wins, but the way the direction of this team is going is way below bad. This team plays worse than a bad NFL team. It would also be nice if Clark H. would step up and at least make a statement that what he has seen is unacceptable and start to put some a little heat on this joke of a coaching staff and front office.
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TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Galveston, TX Casino cash: $-1456873	**** NO! Those fools thought they had something in Brodie Croyle - They also thought they had a right side of an OL and a #2 WR. They're so bad that thier HOF player wants out. They could NOT have blown this deal any worse than they have. They need to be fired now. I bet anything Clark gives then a "do-over" . __________________ "Do we have time to run WASP?"
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	I will pretty much say we should have moved for Cromartie he was 1 pick ahead when we were picking like 18th that isn't anything to move... The Ryan argument has more to do with everyone who absolutely did not want him and said he was elevated do to a bad class. Or said he was no better a prospect than Croyle..that's more a comment on peoples lack of an ability to judge a QB than it is saying we should have traded. Going into that draft there were a ton of people that wouldn't have wanted Ryan if he was on the board or not...that is the point.
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10-13-2008, 09:47 PM	#56
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-796615	**** those clowns. No do-over. GET OUT
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