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Old 10-13-2008, 09:49 PM   #1
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I will pretty much say we should have moved for Cromartie he was 1 pick ahead when we were picking like 18th that isn't anything to move...

The Ryan argument has more to do with everyone who absolutely did not want him and said he was elevated do to a bad class. Or said he was no better a prospect than Croyle..that's more a comment on peoples lack of an ability to judge a QB than it is saying we should have traded.

Going into that draft there were a ton of people that wouldn't have wanted Ryan if he was on the board or not...that is the point.
Wouldn't matter. Even if the Chiefs did get Ryan, he wouldn't get any playing time at all, and if he did, he'd be already ruined by this shitty-assed coaching staff.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:50 PM   #2
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Wouldn't matter. Even if the Chiefs did get Ryan, he wouldn't get any playing time at all, and if he did, he'd be already ruined by this shitty-assed coaching staff.
I guess every player we drafted this past year is going to be a complete bust then.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:53 PM   #3
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I guess every player we drafted this past year is going to be a complete bust then.
Except for the secondary. Seems like the secondary players have improved, regardless of who they are. Other than that, everybody else has either shown no progress or regressed.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:52 PM   #4
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be already ruined by this shitty-assed coaching staff.
So we should just forfeit the draft when we have a bad administation?

Too bad we ruined guys like Neil Smith and Okoye because they played under Ganz.
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So we should just forfeit the draft when we have a bad administation?

Too bad we ruined guys like Neil Smith and Okoye because they played under Ganz.
Ganz never coached them up. They didn't reach their full potentional until Marty.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:59 PM   #6
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Ganz never coached them up. They didn't reach their full potentional until Marty.
Thats exactly my point. Just because you have bad management running the show, doesnt mean you stop stockpiling talent in fear they might get ruined.
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Thats exactly my point. Just because you have bad management running the show, doesnt mean you stop stockpiling talent in fear they might get ruined.
I want a coaching staff that can stockpile talent, and also develop them in the process.

I don't want a coaching staff that can't hit for shit (DV's drafting) and ruin the franchise without any young core players.

I don't want a coaching staff that can hit for shit (Herm's drafting) and still run the franchise without properly developing the young players.
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I want a coaching staff that can stockpile talent, and also develop them in the process.

I don't want a coaching staff that can't hit for shit (DV's drafting) and ruin the franchise without any young core players.

I don't want a coaching staff that can hit for shit (Herm's drafting) and still run the franchise without properly developing the young players.


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I want a coaching staff that can stockpile talent, and also develop them in the process.

I don't want a coaching staff that can't hit for shit (DV's drafting) and ruin the franchise without any young core players.

I don't want a coaching staff that can hit for shit (Herm's drafting) and still run the franchise without properly developing the young players.
Exactly.

And again, RYAN WASN'T AVAILABLE TO US.

Why is that so hard for people to comprehend?
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Exactly.

And again, RYAN WASN'T AVAILABLE TO US.

Why is that so hard for people to comprehend?
You are completely missing the point.....of course that is a solid deflection because I seem to recall before that draft you were one of the guys not wanting him right...
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Exactly.

And again, RYAN WASN'T AVAILABLE TO US.

Why is that so hard for people to comprehend?
Well most have drank the kool-aid for 20 years... That sure hasnt helped the growth of brain cells...
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Exactly.

And again, RYAN WASN'T AVAILABLE TO US.

Why is that so hard for people to comprehend?

Before the draft the Chiefs went to see the guy workout in person and seemed to like him alot.

I wish they would have tried harder to move up when the Rams passed on him.
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:16 PM   #13
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Exactly.

And again, RYAN WASN'T AVAILABLE TO US.

Why is that so hard for people to comprehend?
I guess somebody wanted to trade up.
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