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Old 11-24-2008, 11:08 AM  
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Dorsey sucks
Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:17 AM   #16
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Think of the madness that would have gone on if we picked Derrick Harvey or Gholston at 5 and passed on Dorsey.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:17 AM   #17
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What's truly concerning to me is he's not improving as the year goes on.

I know the curve is big, and he'll likely snap out of it, but this guy was said to be the most NFL ready DT since Sapp. We all bought that hype.

I'm not saying he sucks yet, but he has a long, long way to go.
Sapp's rookie year stat line was 27 tackles, 3 sacks and 1 int.

Through 11 games Dorsey has 30 tackles, 1 sack and 1 FF.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:18 AM   #18
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:18 AM   #19
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People talk about Dorsey as if hes some sort of project?

WTF? He is a TOP 5 PICK! Came from a great school with a great program, arguable came out as one of the best defensive players in the country, but he needs time?

yeah i aint buying that. youre either good, and you have it, or you don't.

yeah i also want my chiefs finishing shit so they can a top pick again..Dorsey is an example how finishing sh*t can hurt you.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:18 AM   #20
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How have other top 5 DTs done their first year? We need a control group.

That said, as bad as our front four is, there should definitely be concern.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:18 AM   #21
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Yeah i've heard that numerous times. I dont buy it.
So your saying the facts are a myth. It been proven time after time, that DT arent a big impact in their rookie year, just look at the numbers.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:19 AM   #22
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You're a top 5 pick, you should be kicking the sh*t out of ppl
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:19 AM   #23
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People talk about Dorsey as if hes some sort of project?

WTF? He is a TOP 5 PICK! Came from a great school with a great program, arguable came out as one of the best defensive players in the country, but he needs time?

yeah i aint buying that. youre either good, and you have it, or you don't.

yeah i also want my chiefs finishing shit so they can a top pick again..Dorsey is an example how finishing sh*t can hurt you.
You are a dumb ****ing reerun.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:20 AM   #24
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People talk about Dorsey as if hes some sort of project?

WTF? He is a TOP 5 PICK! Came from a great school with a great program, arguable came out as one of the best defensive players in the country, but he needs time?

yeah i aint buying that. youre either good, and you have it, or you don't.

yeah i also want my chiefs finishing shit so they can a top pick again..Dorsey is an example how finishing sh*t can hurt you.
Hes also a DT that usually takes at least three years to live up to they hype... Maybe you need to look at other "great" DTs and see how they did their rookie years, because Dorsey is already ahead of most of them.
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You're a top 5 pick, you should be kicking the sh*t out of ppl
You should be our new Defensive Line Coach.
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You're a top 5 pick, you should be kicking the sh*t out of ppl
I don't know any top five pick that can manhandle 5-7 NFL blockers all by himself.
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So your saying the facts are a myth. It been proven time after time, that DT arent a big impact in their rookie year, just look at the numbers.
No im saying that. im looking at how he is doing this year. He isnt making any progress. Like Badguy said, he isn't improving as the season goes on.
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You're a top 5 pick, you should be kicking the sh*t out of ppl
Can you strain your mind a bit and go look at how other highly drafted defensive linemen have performed as rookies? Or is that too difficult? He might be Ryan Sims or he might be Warren Sapp. It's stupid to throw him on the trash heap like you're doing at this point.
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Granted stats don't tell the whole story but...

Year One
Sapp 26 Tackles 3 sacks
Haynesworth 30 tackles 1 sack

Dorsey 30 tackles 1 sack with 5 games to go.
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People talk about Dorsey as if hes some sort of project?

WTF? He is a TOP 5 PICK! Came from a great school with a great program, arguable came out as one of the best defensive players in the country, but he needs time?

yeah i aint buying that. youre either good, and you have it, or you don't.

yeah i also want my chiefs finishing shit so they can a top pick again..Dorsey is an example how finishing sh*t can hurt you.
Moronic. I guess Warren Sapp, Mario Williams and Albert Haynesworth were all busts after 1 year, right?
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