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Old 12-29-2008, 12:45 PM  
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Why Pioli?
Just wondering. What has he done that makes him a better candidate than others?
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:18 PM   #46
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Not to be an ass or anything, but If I were an NFL Exec, KC would be very unattractive to me.

Why would anyone want to leave a city like Boston to go to the midwest?

I guess to each his own, but I think the Chiefs are sort of screwed by their location.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:21 PM   #47
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I don't see why the draft gurus want a guy like Pioli...he is going to give Mecca a stroke...the Patriots make picks every year that are considered ridiculous reaches...but the scouts always give them a pass because they are the Patriots.

As OTWP pointed out...the Pats have had some historically bad drafts this past decade...Maroney/Chad Jackson/Dave Thomas??? Yikes. Plus they drafted Mayo 15 picks early...even though he had a good rookie campaign.
Yep. If we hire him, ima hope the hype is true. But i have a feeling like we should not believe the hype. I'd be more happy with someone who drafts consistantly well. The patriots claim to draft fame is Brady.

I wanted the chiefs to draft Brady in the middle rounds that year. he was on my wish list, maybe im a guru......probably not...

The pats got lucky that they nabbed him, i'd rather have consistantcy than luck
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:25 PM   #48
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Not to be an ass or anything, but If I were an NFL Exec, KC would be very unattractive to me.

Why would anyone want to leave a city like Boston to go to the midwest?

I guess to each his own, but I think the Chiefs are sort of screwed by their location.
It's because you, like I, live in San Diego and can't imagine being anywhere else. I don't think NFL execs care. And it's not like Boston is such a desirable place.

Besides, he could jump on his private jet and be in Boston in no time.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:31 PM   #49
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NE had 1 or possibly 2 bad drafts under Pioli/Belichick. Every other year was probably superior to anything KC has done in the same time frame. The draft has been the secret to their long term success, let's not pretend otherwise.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:33 PM   #50
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NE had 1 or possibly 2 bad drafts under Pioli/Belichick. Every other year was probably superior to anything KC has done in the same time frame. The draft has been the secret to their long term success, let's not pretend otherwise.
Better than bad does not equal good, Brock.

And no one said their drafts were bad, only that they were average at best.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:38 PM   #51
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NE had 1 or possibly 2 bad drafts under Pioli/Belichick. Every other year was probably superior to anything KC has done in the same time frame. The draft has been the secret to their long term success, let's not pretend otherwise.
A lot of teams have drafted better than KC. i wonder how other potential Gm candidates have drafted compared to Pioli's?
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:38 PM   #52
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I am starting to lean toward Whaley or the guy from the Ravens.
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Better than bad does not equal good, Brock.

And no one said their drafts were bad, only that they were average at best.
Not wanting to invest a bunch of time in analysis, I would guess that their drafts stack up pretty good against anyone's.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:41 PM   #54
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Better than bad does not equal good, Brock.

And no one said their drafts were bad, only that they were average at best.
I don't think the Pats had below average drafts, but I do think that their coach can get every little ounce out of every player, unlike the coach here.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:43 PM   #55
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Not to be an ass or anything, but If I were an NFL Exec, KC would be very unattractive to me.

Why would anyone want to leave a city like Boston to go to the midwest?

I guess to each his own, but I think the Chiefs are sort of screwed by their location.
I'd guess most people that are driven and career-minded are more concerned with their position and organization rather than geographic location.
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Not wanting to invest a bunch of time in analysis, I would guess that their drafts stack up pretty good against anyone's.
The list of Pioli's drafts is in post #35.

2000: Hit on 1/10 players - Brady

2001: Hit on 2/10 players - Seymour, Light

2002: Hit on 1/6 players - Branch

2003: Hit on 3/10 players - Warren, Samuel, Koppen

2004: Hit on 1/8 players - Wilfork

2005: Hit on 5/7 players - Mankins, Hobbs, Kaczur, Sanders, Cassel

2006: Hit on 1/10 players - Gostkowski

2007: Early, but looking like 1/9 - Meriweather



Downright poor other than 2003/2005.

Even with those two years, they still only hit on 21% of picks during Pioli's time there. (15/70)
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that's why I said I'm surprised Mecca is so high on Pioli...he is going to shit dozens of bricks watching Pioli reach for guys...every year the talking heads talk about how the Patriots draft board is always vastly different than the rest of the teams in the NFL...
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The list of Pioli's drafts is in post #35.

2000: Hit on 1/10 players - Brady

2001: Hit on 2/10 players - Seymour, Light

2002: Hit on 1/6 players - Branch

2003: Hit on 3/10 players - Warren, Samuel, Koppen

2004: Hit on 1/8 players - Wilfork

2005: Hit on 5/7 players - Mankins, Hobbs, Kaczur, Sanders, Cassel

2006: Hit on 1/10 players - Gostkowski

2007: Early, but looking like 1/9 - Meriweather



Downright poor other than 2003/2005.

Even with those two years, they still only hit on 21% of picks during Pioli's time there. (15/70)
where as we hit on LJ, DJ and Jared Allen. 3 players in 7 years.

But how can the next guy regardless of who it is be worse than King Carl? Is it even possible outside of the Lions and Al Davis's war rooms?
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where as we hit on LJ, DJ and Jared Allen. 3 players in 7 years.

But how can the next guy regardless of who it is be worse than King Carl? Is it even possible outside of the Lions and Al Davis's war rooms?
Again, being better than KC at drafting doesn't make you good at it.
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The list of Pioli's drafts is in post #35.

2000: Hit on 1/10 players - Brady

2001: Hit on 2/10 players - Seymour, Light

2002: Hit on 1/6 players - Branch

2003: Hit on 3/10 players - Warren, Samuel, Koppen

2004: Hit on 1/8 players - Wilfork

2005: Hit on 5/7 players - Mankins, Hobbs, Kaczur, Sanders, Cassel

2006: Hit on 1/10 players - Gostkowski

2007: Early, but looking like 1/9 - Meriweather



Downright poor other than 2003/2005.

Even with those two years, they still only hit on 21% of picks during Pioli's time there. (15/70)
Interesting.
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