Chiefs Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions - Page 8

Pneuma · 08-26-2009, 02:11 PM

No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 07:42 PM

Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.

All of those excuses were set for Croyle too...people want so badly to believe that the guy is the answer it's never his fault.

"The line sucks" "the receivers aren't good enough" etc etc etc

HolmeZz · 08-26-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pneuma

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

What exactly were Ty Law and David Givens 'sold high' for again?

Deion Branch overachieved? He was a 2nd round pick who's never had 1,000 yards receiving and never more than 5 touchdowns in a season. He hasn't suffered from much of a drop off in production since going to Seattle, it's been more a case of not being able to stay on the field.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

All of those excuses were set for Croyle too...people want so badly to believe that the guy is the answer it's never his fault.

"The line sucks" "the receivers aren't good enough" etc etc etc

I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.

veist · 08-26-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

And lets not forgot that the Cards line was not good either, heh. Didn't seem to keep Warner from lighting some D's up last year.

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.

And they'll be in play for a long time, we're talking about a fan base that actually tried to justify that Brodie Croyle and Matt Ryan were similar prospects.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-26-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.

No, it just says that trying to build your entire offense around one player that isn't named Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is just plain nuts.

Cassel is a work-in-progress. And who knows if he ever reaches any potential. I'm just astounded that the Chiefs would bring in a guy like Cassel and not surround him with the tools to learn how to run an offense the right way. It enfuriates me, actually. It's one thing if the Chiefs gave him limited talent to work with. But they stripped him of their top "receiver" and they sat idly by as an offensive line they knew was horrendous didn't improve a bit.

The excuses won't be just from the fans. Pioli bought Cassel two years because if he's not successful in year 1, Pioli can blame it on lack of support players, even though he should have known that before we entered the 2009 season.

boogblaster · 08-26-2009, 07:53 PM

We needed a QB .. we got a 1 year proven one .. true he played on a very good team, but he still played well .. was it a bad move, time will tell .. still it wasn't the no.1 worst decision of the offseason ....

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

No, it just says that trying to build your entire offense around one player that isn't named Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is just plain nuts.

Cassel is a work-in-progress. And who knows if he ever reaches any potential. I'm just astounded that the Chiefs would bring in a guy like Cassel and not surround him with the tools to learn how to run an offense the right way. It enfuriates me, actually. It's one thing if the Chiefs gave him limited talent to work with. But they stripped him of their top "receiver" and they sat idly by as an offensive line they knew was horrendous didn't improve a bit.

The excuses won't be just from the fans. Pioli bought Cassel two years because if he's not successful in year 1, Pioli can blame it on lack of support players, even though he should have known that before we entered the 2009 season.

Look out, folks. 'Zilla is furious.

Ignored the offense, setting Cassel up for failure, and trading Tyler Thigpen.

OH NOES!!!111!!!!!111!!one!!111eleventy!1

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster

We needed a QB .. we got a 1 year proven one .. true he played on a very good team, but he still played well .. was it a bad move, time will tell .. still it wasn't the no.1 worst decision of the offseason ....

What's #1?

**Bwana** · 08-26-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Here is the douchebag who wrote this tripe:

http://hardcoresportsradio.com/membe...v/default.aspx

The dude looks like a candy nippled flit boy. The kind of gem that would ring your doorbell and when you answered the door, would start jerking off on your mailbox. I wouldn't put a hell of a lot of stock in what this strokestick writes, but that's just me.

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Look out, folks. 'Zilla is furious.

Ignored the offense, setting Cassel up for failure, and trading Tyler Thigpen.

OH NOES!!!111!!!!!111!!one!!111eleventy!1

HaHa, well I wouldn't have approached things the way the Chiefs did either, I'll say that much.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

What's #1?

Gotta be Denver trading away a franchise QB for a guy that only started out of necessity last year.

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Gotta be Denver trading away a franchise QB for a guy that only started out of necessity last year.

That one is pretty bad...Delhomme is too but Cassel is right up there if you think he won't pan out.

**DeezNutz** · 08-26-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Gotta be Denver trading away a franchise QB for a guy that only started out of necessity last year.

That's the type of move that would push me as close as possible to turning in my fan card until the current regime left town.

I would be dumbstruck.

08-26-2009, 02:11 PM
Pneuma Titles Suck Join Date: Aug 2006 Casino cash: $9788321	Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for. Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law. The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt. He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon. http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html ___________________ While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.
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08-26-2009, 07:42 PM	#106
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	Exactly as I called it just after the trade. The excuses have already started. Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.
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08-26-2009, 07:53 PM	#113
boogblaster MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Verdigris Valley Campsite Casino cash: $10004900	We needed a QB .. we got a 1 year proven one .. true he played on a very good team, but he still played well .. was it a bad move, time will tell .. still it wasn't the no.1 worst decision of the offseason .... __________________ WR or S please
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