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Old 08-26-2009, 07:42 PM   #1
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Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:43 PM   #2
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Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.
All of those excuses were set for Croyle too...people want so badly to believe that the guy is the answer it's never his fault.

"The line sucks" "the receivers aren't good enough" etc etc etc
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:45 PM   #3
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All of those excuses were set for Croyle too...people want so badly to believe that the guy is the answer it's never his fault.

"The line sucks" "the receivers aren't good enough" etc etc etc
I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:46 PM   #4
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I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.
And they'll be in play for a long time, we're talking about a fan base that actually tried to justify that Brodie Croyle and Matt Ryan were similar prospects.
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:46 AM   #5
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And they'll be in play for a long time, we're talking about a fan base that actually tried to justify that Brodie Croyle and Matt Ryan were similar prospects.


Link to the fanbase. Please.
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:52 PM   #6
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I like how all these excuses were presented as a reason to not draft a QB, and get a veteran guy.

Now the vet is here, and all the same excuses are still in play.
No, it just says that trying to build your entire offense around one player that isn't named Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is just plain nuts.

Cassel is a work-in-progress. And who knows if he ever reaches any potential. I'm just astounded that the Chiefs would bring in a guy like Cassel and not surround him with the tools to learn how to run an offense the right way. It enfuriates me, actually. It's one thing if the Chiefs gave him limited talent to work with. But they stripped him of their top "receiver" and they sat idly by as an offensive line they knew was horrendous didn't improve a bit.

The excuses won't be just from the fans. Pioli bought Cassel two years because if he's not successful in year 1, Pioli can blame it on lack of support players, even though he should have known that before we entered the 2009 season.
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:54 PM   #7
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No, it just says that trying to build your entire offense around one player that isn't named Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is just plain nuts.

Cassel is a work-in-progress. And who knows if he ever reaches any potential. I'm just astounded that the Chiefs would bring in a guy like Cassel and not surround him with the tools to learn how to run an offense the right way. It enfuriates me, actually. It's one thing if the Chiefs gave him limited talent to work with. But they stripped him of their top "receiver" and they sat idly by as an offensive line they knew was horrendous didn't improve a bit.

The excuses won't be just from the fans. Pioli bought Cassel two years because if he's not successful in year 1, Pioli can blame it on lack of support players, even though he should have known that before we entered the 2009 season.
Look out, folks. 'Zilla is furious.



Ignored the offense, setting Cassel up for failure, and trading Tyler Thigpen.

OH NOES!!!111!!!!!111!!one!!111eleventy!1
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:55 PM   #8
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Look out, folks. 'Zilla is furious.



Ignored the offense, setting Cassel up for failure, and trading Tyler Thigpen.

OH NOES!!!111!!!!!111!!one!!111eleventy!1
HaHa, well I wouldn't have approached things the way the Chiefs did either, I'll say that much.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:09 AM   #9
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Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.
funny how you INSIST on ignoring the fact that football is a TEAM SPORT
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:07 PM   #10
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Exactly as I called it just after the trade.

The excuses have already started.

Everyone is getting them ready early, that way when we go 3-13 all the blame is deflected away from the supposed franchise QB.
I noticed this very phenom in the Sanchez' vs Ravens thread. When Sanchez threw that wrongway pick/td the excuse I heard was: "Well... the Ravens will do that to a lot of teams this season".

The excuses for the franchise QB in NY from CP have started too.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:19 PM   #11
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I noticed this very phenom in the Sanchez' vs Ravens thread. When Sanchez threw that wrongway pick/td the excuse I heard was: "Well... the Ravens will do that to a lot of teams this season".

The excuses for the franchise QB in NY from CP have started too.
And what's wrong with that comment?

I don't care who it is, I expect a rookie to struggle a bit in his 2nd preseason game against the best defense in the league, on the road.

All we heard about the Cassel deal is how he had more experience, and would be better suited to play with limited weapons and behind a bad OL. How we'd ruin a draft pick at QB. Cassel's a veteran, has experience, so on, and so forth.

Sorry, but people did it to themselves claiming that Cassel is a franchise QB without the risk of a draft pick.

Can't have it both ways.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:03 PM   #12
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And what's wrong with that comment?

I don't care who it is, I expect a rookie to struggle a bit in his 2nd preseason game against the best defense in the league, on the road.

All we heard about the Cassel deal is how he had more experience, and would be better suited to play with limited weapons and behind a bad OL. How we'd ruin a draft pick at QB. Cassel's a veteran, has experience, so on, and so forth.

Sorry, but people did it to themselves claiming that Cassel is a franchise QB without the risk of a draft pick.

Can't have it both ways.
Someone actually made that claim? lol
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:12 PM   #13
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And what's wrong with that comment?

I don't care who it is, I expect a rookie to struggle a bit in his 2nd preseason game against the best defense in the league, on the road.

All we heard about the Cassel deal is how he had more experience, and would be better suited to play with limited weapons and behind a bad OL. How we'd ruin a draft pick at QB. Cassel's a veteran, has experience, so on, and so forth.

Sorry, but people did it to themselves claiming that Cassel is a franchise QB without the risk of a draft pick.

Can't have it both ways.
That's a sweet excuse too. You expect that from a rookie. Okay. Ground work laid.

And look, I don't give a rat's ass either way. What the Chiefs do in the war room and on the field is completely out of my control. All I can do is be a fan of the laundry the guy wears.
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