Even while McCluster succeeds, this continues to be my concern about that pick...

[Direckshun]

He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately.

But is he someone you can build around?

I hesitate still, even now, to say yes.

What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL?

Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would?

I am prepared to endure your scorn.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Oregon chief

Agreed. It just seems like this pick is getting constantly questioned.

I think it is consistently questioned for all the right reasons. Just because you question something doesn't mean you aren't open to any answer...I agree with the OP...It seemed to me a very questionable pick with an extemely high 2nd rounder that could have gone to say an OL which we need...This football team despite being 3-0 is still rebuilding...I think people forget that and just want to live in a fantasy land.

I questioned the pick when it happened and still do....but that doesn't mean 1) I am not open to being 100% wrong.... or 2) I can't enjoy Dex for what he is in the moment.....

A question is simply that...a QUESTION....and with time, the questions will be answered one way or another.

[Gadzooks]

From an outside perspective, I thought the pick was a bit high.
Talented guy, don't get me wrong, but Mr. Direckshun may have a point.
That speed fades quickly.
Getting an OL, DL or a LB that can be solid, (not necessarily a star), for aboot 7-10 years would be the ideal in round 2. Darrell Greens don't come along every year.
Sproles was a 4th rounder BTW.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Most picks around McCluster and Arenas are going to bust and bust hard. Probably around 1/2 to 3/4 of them.

Yep. The odds are against even a second-rounder. Most of them will play for a while, but relatively few are stars. It's surprising, but true.

Per the original topic, I would agree that the smallest players tend to have shorter careers, though they can be impactful during that time. Maybe Pioli got McCluster for our Super Bowl run in 2010.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

*yawn*

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

From an outside perspective, I thought the pick was a bit high.
Talented guy, don't get me wrong, but Mr. Direckshun may have a point.
That speed fades quickly.
Getting an OL, DL or a LB that can be solid, (not necessarily a star), for aboot 7-10 years would be the ideal in round 2. Darrell Greens don't come along every year.
Sproles was a 4th rounder BTW.

But this goes back to the argument we had all along pre-draft: those positions you mentioned are EASY to find. Arguably, we have two young ILBs in Belcher and DJ who are looking like they could be 5-year options. And when you look at the free agency wire, you see a lot of these guys who can more than adequately fill those positions. It won't be hard for us to overpay for a productive ILB or a Right Tackle. If Pioli's history in NE is any indication, he likes to build first and then spend big money when he feels the foundation has been set.

But playmakers do not grow on trees and teams typically do not get rid of these guys. We talked a lot about how the best teams have a handful of playmakers. As of now, I haven't seen them use McCluster in a way that makes you really concerned about his long-term health (outside of the preseason).

[Fish]

Originally Posted by chief4life

Once again someone put a reeruned post up geeeez what does the kid have to do for FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! to get your approval omg!!! Your damn right he was a great pick and is a reason we are 3-0. So stop this stupid ass criticism for one of our best players. The guy can run routes like a wr and and can also play rb and return kicks. He has scored a td by running back a punt, and a pass. Anyway I swear some of our fans are about as bad as the Eagles. And they boo Santa Claus. He was a hell of a pick and will be great for a long time with us. End of discussion!!!!

Not really... that's kinda why we're having this discussion. You saying he'll be great for a long time doesn't make it so.

I swear some Chiefs fans are only capable of one single emotion at a time. The thought of being ecstatic with the progress of the team, yet at the same time wanting to discuss the long term future shouldn't overload your brain to the point of all caps and multiple exclamation points.

"SHUT UP YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY SINCE WE WON GAMES." doesn't make for a very good conversation.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

"SHUT UP YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY SINCE WE WON GAMES." doesn't make for a very good conversation.

It makes for some great fascism, though. That you have to admit.

[Mecca]

Bottom line, until we fix the QB position we're on the outside looking in so moves will be questioned.

[Knob]

Looks pretty good so far.

[Knob]

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Bottom line, until we fix the QB position we're on the outside looking in so moves will be questioned.

While that's fine, we've had a million threads talking about how we have to get a first round QB... period. No settling. And there were multiple statistics out there to prove it. So if we're talking about second round picks, that shouldn't be up for debate.

Now, last year, like Cassel, I took a "wait and see" approach for Sanchez. I thought he was a product of a great running game and defense, and thought he was getting way too much credit for game management. I'm really unhappy to report that this year, he's proving to be much more than that. It's beginning to look like we whiffed big time by passing on Sanchez.

So yeah, once again, we ****ed up pretty big time in 2009, but I don't think the QB argument really comes into play nearly as much in 2010.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

While that's fine, we've had a million threads talking about how we have to get a first round QB... period. No settling. And there were multiple statistics out there to prove it. So if we're talking about second round picks, that shouldn't be up for debate.

Now, last year, like Cassel, I took a "wait and see" approach for Sanchez. I thought he was a product of a great running game and defense, and thought he was getting way too much credit for game management. I'm really unhappy to report that this year, he's proving to be much more than that. It's beginning to look like we whiffed big time by passing on Sanchez.

So yeah, once again, we ****ed up pretty big time in 2009, but I don't think the QB argument really comes into play nearly as much in 2010.

It's pretty frustrating to realize if we could go back and swap out Jackson and Cassel with Sanchez and any number of 2nd rounders last year we'd be even better than we are today.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Bottom line, until we fix the QB position we're on the outside looking in so moves will be questioned.

You seem to write this as if there is a point this or any team could reach where every move is not questioned.

Don't be silly.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's pretty frustrating to realize if we could go back and swap out Jackson and Cassel with Sanchez and any number of 2nd rounders last year we'd be even better than we are today.

Sad but true. But the good news is, I think the 2010 draft is moving us in the right direction. But yes, the QB situation is going to loom over their heads until they figure it out.

[ChiefaRoo]

This thread is dumb