NFL Draft Even while McCluster succeeds, this continues to be my concern about that pick... - Page 2

Direckshun · 10-04-2010, 03:07 PM

He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately.

But is he someone you can build around?

I hesitate still, even now, to say yes.

What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL?

Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would?

I am prepared to endure your scorn.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-04-2010, 03:38 PM

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Are you suggesting there are no foundation/elite guys to be found in R2?

There could be, and Dex could be one of them. I was just curious about who these guys were in the draft.

keg in kc · 10-04-2010, 03:40 PM

I think it depends on how they use him. Steve Smith has had a pretty good run with the Panthers, and he's only 5'9, 185. I think McCluster could conceivably be the same kind of player, although he'd obviously have to add more bulk. DeSean Jackson's a bit taller, but not much thicker. There's probably a few more guys in the league that don't have the prototypical 6'2, 215 pound receiver build. If he's just a running back, and they limit his role to that of Sproles or Bush, then I'm not sure how much longevity he'll have (but that would be true of anybody - I wonder that about Charles, it's a brutal position).

**Gadzooks** · 10-04-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Who do you get in the 2nd to "build around?"

Drew Brees... Wait, I shouldn't have said that.

Fritz88 · 10-04-2010, 03:44 PM

Depends on how you use him. Are you going to Herm the shit out of him like Herm did with LJ?

suds79 · 10-04-2010, 03:47 PM

Bet you DeSean Jackson is around the league for a while.

Honestly we have no idea who's going to be great 5 years down the road. We just don't know. This game can beat up any man's body in that amount of time.

If you have a guy you know who can be electric for you right now, take him.

Better to get a guy that can win you games. Look at what he's done so far? You could argue he won us that 1st game.

Drafting Dexter has been such a breath of fresh air IMO.

shitgoose · 10-04-2010, 03:47 PM

Mecca · 10-04-2010, 03:48 PM

Still think he's basically Eric Metcalf.

Fritz88 · 10-04-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

If you have a guy you know who can be electric for you right now, take him.

ThIs

Oregon chief · 10-04-2010, 03:51 PM

What we are building around is having multiple offensive weapons, not one specific player. Having McCluster in means that we have one more weapon and we are that much more dangerous. I don't understand why it is even a question of value with him. It was a great pick, end of story.

I'm amazed at how many people at CP still have a problem with the pick. It's as if they think they are doing more college scouting than the Chiefs staff.

Mecca · 10-04-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregon chief

What we are building around is having multiple offensive weapons, not one specific player. Having McCluster in means that we have one more weapon and we are that much more dangerous. I don't understand why it is even a question of value with him. It was a great pick, end of story.

I'm amazed at how many people at CP still have a problem with the pick. It's as if they think they are doing more college scouting than the Chiefs staff.

It's fine to debate picks, no front office is unquestionable.

chief4life · 10-04-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately.

But is he someone you can build around?

I hesitate still, even now, to say yes.

What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL?

Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would?

I am prepared to endure your scorn.

Once again someone put a reeruned post up geeeez what does the kid have to do for FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! to get your approval omg!!! Your damn right he was a great pick and is a reason we are 3-0. So stop this stupid ass criticism for one of our best players. The guy can run routes like a wr and and can also play rb and return kicks. He has scored a td by running back a punt, and a pass. Anyway I swear some of our fans are about as bad as the Eagles. And they boo Santa Claus. He was a hell of a pick and will be great for a long time with us. End of discussion!!!!

Oregon chief · 10-04-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's fine to debate picks, no front office is unquestionable.

Agreed. It just seems like this pick is getting constantly questioned.

chief4life · 10-04-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregon chief

Agreed. It just seems like this pick is getting constantly questioned.

Which is reeruned because he has been a major cog to us winning right now

Simply Red · 10-04-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chief4life

Which is reeruned because he has been a major cog to us winning right now

I agree. JESUS!

Mr. Laz · 10-04-2010, 04:08 PM

He needs to develop as a receiver for long term productivity

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Even while McCluster succeeds, this continues to be my concern about that pick... He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately. But is he someone you can build around? I hesitate still, even now, to say yes. What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL? Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would? I am prepared to endure your scorn.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I think it depends on how they use him. Steve Smith has had a pretty good run with the Panthers, and he's only 5'9, 185. I think McCluster could conceivably be the same kind of player, although he'd obviously have to add more bulk. DeSean Jackson's a bit taller, but not much thicker. There's probably a few more guys in the league that don't have the prototypical 6'2, 215 pound receiver build. If he's just a running back, and they limit his role to that of Sproles or Bush, then I'm not sure how much longevity he'll have (but that would be true of anybody - I wonder that about Charles, it's a brutal position).
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Oregon chief Sideline Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $9852131	What we are building around is having multiple offensive weapons, not one specific player. Having McCluster in means that we have one more weapon and we are that much more dangerous. I don't understand why it is even a question of value with him. It was a great pick, end of story. I'm amazed at how many people at CP still have a problem with the pick. It's as if they think they are doing more college scouting than the Chiefs staff.
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