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Old 01-06-2011, 01:44 PM  
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No Luck for Carolina
Andrew Luck decides to stay at Stanford for one more year. It's probably a wise decision unless there is a rookie salary cap coming.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:16 PM   #76
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This is an extremely reckless decision in terms of his family, too. We're talking about money that could, if managed properly, set up his kids' kids.

Luck might come from a prosperous home, but I highly doubt his folks are INSANELY wealthy.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:16 PM   #77
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You think Gabbert's the new number one?
Oh, probably not.

If the #1 is a quarterback, I think Mallet's performance against OSU clinched Gabbert's hold as the #1 QB drafted. But at this point I think Carolina will look at a different position and I'm not sure anyone loves Gabbert enough to give up the ransom it would take to move up to get him.

It was mostly a funny visual that I changed from "Clausen slinging it" right before I hit submit.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:17 PM   #78
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People need to be careful what they wish for/want. Sure you have top 5 picks who bust and don't earn their money. But the guys that are good are locked up for longer and freely negotiate new contracts to the benefit of the team (cap space). You want guaranteed NFL contracts with little flexibility in how it is allocated?
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:18 PM   #79
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People need to be careful what they wish for/want. Sure you have top 5 picks who bust and don't earn their money. But the guys that are good are locked up for longer and freely negotiate new contracts to the benefit of the team (cap space). You want guaranteed NFL contracts with little flexibility in how it is allocated?
What's that have to do with an NBA style slotting system for rookies?

You could easily do that and then allow the players complete discretion in negotiating extensions afterwards.

Nobody is advocating a wholesale adoption of the NBA system.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:19 PM   #80
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What Andrew Luck is Passing Up


Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck has decided to remain in school for a fourth year, and the common reaction is that he's made a very noble, but bad decision to pass up NFL millions when his stock couldn't possibly be higher.

The NFL is expected to ask for, and the NFLPA is expected grant them, a "Rookie Wage Scale" in the next collective bargaining agreement. It's one issue both sides seem to agree upon.

Now, I've written about this issue frequently over the last year. I do not feel a "rookie wage scale" is necessary, as one that limits first-year compensation for draft picks already exists and continued in an uncapped season, but I've accepted that incoming rookies will be (needlessly) sacrificed under the guise that more guaranteed money will go towards veterans.

(Who are almost always released before the start of the regular season to avoid base salary guarantees, but I digress.)

Assuming Luck were the number one pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, what is he giving up, financially, by staying in school?

According to Green Bay Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy, under the NFL's proposal for a rookie wage scale, the first overall pick "would sign a five-year contract and receive a $5.34 million signing bonus and $1.5 million salary his rookie year, even if he does not play a single down."

Murphy adds that the player's salaries would increase from $1.7 million in year two to $2.9 million in year five. Unless that player is a quarterback, who will be required to sign a six-year contract, with the sixth-year base salary listed at $4.3 million.

That's right, a year after the St. Louis Rams signed first-round quarterback Sam Bradford to a six-year, $78 million contract, with $50 million in guaranteed money, Luck would be signing a six-year deal worth $19.94 million.

Incidentally, Luck would've received more money ($6.84M) in 2011, without playing a down, under the NFL's proposed plan than Bradford and 2010 second overall pick Ndamukong Suh received combined ($6.3M) this season.

Furthermore, the NFL wants to delay the date in which first-round contracts can be renegotiated.

Currently, the team and player and can revisit rookie contracts after two years. Under the NFL's proposal, first-round picks will have to wait until after year three. Sure, a player could hold out to get a new deal, but with less up-front money, and no option or salary advances in year two, the player has less leverage and remains under his team's control for two-to-four more seasons.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:19 PM   #81
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This is an extremely reckless decision in terms of his family, too. We're talking about money that could, if managed properly, set up his kids' kids.

Luck might come from a prosperous home, but I highly doubt his folks are INSANELY wealthy.
I questioned Bradford's decision a couple of years ago too. These guys must have a pretty big insurance policy.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:22 PM   #82
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I see Carolina taking A.J. Green now.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:23 PM   #83
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ya, seems dumb to be. He is a lock to be #1 right now. If he gets hurt or sucks, he's "outta luck"
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:23 PM   #85
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I see Carolina taking A.J. Green now.
I hope so, I'd hate to see Denver draft him. He's going to be a beast in the NFL.
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I don't see how this makes him a dumbass. The guy comes from a rich family and is going to graduate from freaking STANFORD. That alone makes him already a success.

Money is money. It will still be there next year. Look at Sam Bradford - he had the worst junior season you could possibly imagine having and still went No. 1 overall. Short of getting his arm sawed off, Luck will likely still go No. 1 next year.
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hat's right, a year after the St. Louis Rams signed first-round quarterback Sam Bradford to a six-year, $78 million contract, with $50 million in guaranteed money, Luck would be signing a six-year deal worth $19.94 million.
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This decision is monumentally stupid. What does he gain by staying? His degree? The thing that he'll never have to use after leaving the NFL?
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