News My fathers' rights case - Page 2

Window Licking Whiner · 11-09-2011, 01:00 PM

Hey guys, I'm trying to get some public exposure about my case in the media, and while I dont live in Missouri or Kansas, I do frequent here so I thought I'd share my story as well. Feel free to share if you are so inclined, any publicity I can get would be appreciated.

Take a look here:
http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/?p=20918

And here's my lawyers blog:
http://marcatanner.wordpress.com/201...fixable-hmmmm/

http://marcatanner.wordpress.com/201...tah-part-deux/

In our last hearing, she admitted that I'm the biological father, that she was telling me she wanted a divorce, that she did leave her husband, and that she was not having sex with her husband when the baby was concieved. Even after the judge chastised her for doing all that, they still said I have no right to ask for a DNA test.

Now think of it like this: If the husband had knocked up a single woman, could he also hide behind "the stability of the marriage", as isnt having a single woman asking for a DNA test interfereing in the marriage? Answer NO...they'd hit you up with CS and a DNA test so fast that your head would spin. This law only exists to protect women, and as such violates the equal protection clause of the constitution.

Anyways thought I would share my story.

Window Licking Whiner · 11-09-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr

I see on the blog that you paid your lawyer $4K last November. What's the total tally up to now?

you dont want to know...it's cost me a fortune, and will continue to.

And that doesnt count the travel costs associated with flying to Utah every other month for hearings

**Dave Lane** · 11-09-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

You're in the clear, dude. Wash your hands of this and run away.

Or this. Yeah totally this now that I think of it.

**Dave Lane** · 11-09-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va

She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Yes

Deberg_1990 · 11-09-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Dont put it past some on this board....

**Predarat** · 11-09-2011, 01:35 PM

That bitch is a slore.

Nightfyre · 11-09-2011, 01:35 PM

Okay, given that she has testified that it is your child, do you not receive any parental rights?

Sofa King · 11-09-2011, 01:36 PM

**RockChalk** · 11-09-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va

She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Don't worry about some of the mentally-challenged posters on this board. You're doing what almost any father would (and should) do

Pants · 11-09-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va

you dont want to know...it's cost me a fortune, and will continue to.

And that doesnt count the travel costs associated with flying to Utah every other month for hearings

It's a good thing you have the means to do so.

Brock · 11-09-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va

She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Yes, we all know that crazy women never lie and change the story later. If I was in your shoes, I just told you what I'd do. You need to think about what you're signing up for on the off chance that the kid might need a kidney from you someday.

You've been given a gift. Take it and run.

rageeumr · 11-09-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va

you dont want to know...it's cost me a fortune, and will continue to.

And that doesnt count the travel costs associated with flying to Utah every other month for hearings

Well, man, you'll get nothing but respect from me. If someone tried to take either of my kids away from me I'd fight with everything I have. I commend you for doing the same.

Window Licking Whiner · 11-09-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Okay, given that she has testified that it is your child, do you not receive any parental rights?

None...because the laws say that the only way I can petition for custody and visititation is with DNA test results that show a 99.9% result of it being my kid...and the only way to get a DNA test is by having standing to ask for one...which their double laws wont allow me to.

Amnorix · 11-09-2011, 01:41 PM

To be blunt, the LAW, which is based on ancient precepts long pre-dating such things as DNA (at least in the field of family law) does not give a goddamn about your "rights" as the father. It cares about one thing and one thing only -- "the best interests of the child."

Because it is in the best interests of the child, there is usually an automatic and conclusive presumption that the husband of a woman giving birth IS THE FATHER.

Your wife gave birth even though you're both Swedish and the kid is clearly biracial? The law doesn't care. Oh, you had a vasectomy too? The law doesn't care. Wait, your penis was actually removed in a horrific wood-chipper incident 8 years ago and the kid is now 2? The law doesn't care.

That law is changing, but VERY slowly. Not sure what the law is in your jurisdiction, but in some places, all the testimony in the world won't work to change it.

vailpass · 11-09-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va

She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Move to the inner city, it's much easier to do there.

Window Licking Whiner · 11-09-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

To be blunt, the LAW, which is based on ancient precepts long pre-dating such things as DNA (at least in the field of family law) does not give a goddamn about your "rights" as the father. It cares about one thing and one thing only -- "the best interests of the child."

Because it is in the best interests of the child, there is usually an automatic and conclusive presumption that the husband of a woman giving birth IS THE FATHER.

Your wife gave birth even though you're both Swedish and the kid is clearly biracial? The law doesn't care. Oh, you had a vasectomy too? The law doesn't care. Wait, your penis was actually removed in a horrific wood-chipper incident 8 years ago and the kid is now 2? The law doesn't care.

That law is changing, but VERY slowly. Not sure what the law is in your jurisdiction, but in some places, all the testimony in the world won't work to change it.

We're not even at the 'best interests of the child' phase yet. That's the custody portion of the case.

This is about the step prior to that. There are two sets of laws governing standing to pursue these actions, and they currently only use one set of them (which are judge made not legislature based) *If they had used the other set i would have won*.

This is about the inequality of laws like these that only men have to abide.

And someone has to go first, else it will never change. I have no delusions of grandeur...shit I'm a Chiefs Fan...but it isnt right that these laws are used to strip fathers (and fathers only), women dont have to endure "standing" when they ask for a DNA test on men (ask Justin Beiber)..and if no one ever fights, it will never change.

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Window Licking Whiner Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $10017935	My fathers' rights case Hey guys, I'm trying to get some public exposure about my case in the media, and while I dont live in Missouri or Kansas, I do frequent here so I thought I'd share my story as well. Feel free to share if you are so inclined, any publicity I can get would be appreciated. Take a look here: http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/?p=20918 And here's my lawyers blog: http://marcatanner.wordpress.com/201...fixable-hmmmm/ http://marcatanner.wordpress.com/201...tah-part-deux/ In our last hearing, she admitted that I'm the biological father, that she was telling me she wanted a divorce, that she did leave her husband, and that she was not having sex with her husband when the baby was concieved. Even after the judge chastised her for doing all that, they still said I have no right to ask for a DNA test. Now think of it like this: If the husband had knocked up a single woman, could he also hide behind "the stability of the marriage", as isnt having a single woman asking for a DNA test interfereing in the marriage? Answer NO...they'd hit you up with CS and a DNA test so fast that your head would spin. This law only exists to protect women, and as such violates the equal protection clause of the constitution. Anyways thought I would share my story.
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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	To be blunt, the LAW, which is based on ancient precepts long pre-dating such things as DNA (at least in the field of family law) does not give a goddamn about your "rights" as the father. It cares about one thing and one thing only -- "the best interests of the child." Because it is in the best interests of the child, there is usually an automatic and conclusive presumption that the husband of a woman giving birth IS THE FATHER. Your wife gave birth even though you're both Swedish and the kid is clearly biracial? The law doesn't care. Oh, you had a vasectomy too? The law doesn't care. Wait, your penis was actually removed in a horrific wood-chipper incident 8 years ago and the kid is now 2? The law doesn't care. That law is changing, but VERY slowly. Not sure what the law is in your jurisdiction, but in some places, all the testimony in the world won't work to change it. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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