NFL Draft Potential top pick Jarvis Jones enters NFL draft - Page 4

Mr. Laz · 01-04-2013, 11:45 AM

Potential top pick Jarvis Jones enters NFL draft

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 4, 2013, 12:20 PM EST

AP

Jarvis Jones, a Georgia outside linebacker who is viewed as a potential first overall pick in the 2013 NFL draft, has made his decision: He’s leaving school to go pro.
That decision has been expected all year, as Jones has been discussed as one of the best pro prospects in college football. ESPN’s Mel Kiper ranks Jones as the best player at any position in this year’s draft.
Jones has led the SEC in sacks in each of the last two seasons, and he also led the NCAA in forced fumbles in 2012. There may be questions, however, about whether he’s a consistent every-down player, and there could also be questions about his injury history: He started his college career at USC and transferred after the school’s doctors recommended that he quit football because of spinal stenosis. Georgia’s doctors have cleared him to play and he has had no further neck problems, but he did have ankle, groin and shoulder injuries that hampered him at times in 2012 and caused him to miss two games.
If Jones is healthy, however, scouts may drool over his ability to get to the quarterback. With the Chiefs owning the first overall pick in the draft, Andy Reid could be coaching Jones in Kansas City next year.

htismaqe · 01-04-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Well I'll say this. If the Chiefs were to mess this up and somehow not draft QB #1, might as well be this guy.

Better that some other options I've heard.

Not really. He's at best the 2nd-best pass rusher in the draft, can really only play 3-4 OLB, and has spinal stenosis.

He's one of the worst options at #1 overall actually.

**The Franchise** · 01-04-2013, 02:11 PM

If they don't draft a QB....then it will be because they draft Moore. And that's only going to happen if they go back to the 4-3 and they don't think that Hali and Houston can be bookends.

suds79 · 01-04-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not really. He's at best the 2nd-best pass rusher in the draft, can really only play 3-4 OLB, and has spinal stenosis.

He's one of the worst options at #1 overall actually.

I didn't know about his spinal issues. That's definitely a factor.

I suppose I was speaking more towards the fact that I'd rather take a pass rusher vs a LT or MLB but obviously health concerns are important.

Hopefully will be a moot point and we'll just take the best QB.

O.city · 01-04-2013, 02:22 PM

If it were me and we are sticking with a 34, we need pass rushers on the dline. Not at OLB, we have those.

ChiefMojo · 01-04-2013, 02:27 PM

I would love Jones if we didn't have Hali and Houston. Not a position of need. Frankly with the #1 pick, it has to be QB or at worst LT.

O.city · 01-04-2013, 02:32 PM

With new Gm's and HC's. We don't currently have a QB worth keeping on the roster and even if we had an average one, it would be an uphill battle for him to stick around. It's just the way things go.

So, currently no QB, new HC, GM etc, and the first overall pick.

It's really not that hard to put two and tow together.

htismaqe · 01-04-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

I didn't know about his spinal issues. That's definitely a factor.

I suppose I was speaking more towards the fact that I'd rather take a pass rusher vs a LT or MLB but obviously health concerns are important.

Hopefully will be a moot point and we'll just take the best QB.

While I hate the thought of taking a LT so high, I'd be a lot more willing to listen to it if there was a great LT in this draft. There isn't.

Joeckel is about the 5th-best tackle in the last 4 or 5 years.

htismaqe · 01-04-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

I would love Jones if we didn't have Hali and Houston. Not a position of need. Frankly with the #1 pick, it has to be QB or at worst LT.

Again, if we want a pass rusher, it should be Moore.

Jones isn't worth the #1 overall pick.

O.city · 01-04-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

While I hate the thought of taking a LT so high, I'd be a lot more willing to listen to it if there was a great LT in this draft. There isn't.

Joeckel is about the 5th-best tackle in the last 4 or 5 years.

It just depends really. Even if there were a Jake Long, look how that worked out for the Phins.

I realize you can't just throw your rookie QB to the wolves, but you also have to get the rookie QB to start.

It's pretty easy. Re Sign Albert. Done.

Ugly Duck · 01-04-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head

J Jones is going to be the #1 overall pick.

Thats not as crazy as it looks at first glance when you consider the stuff the professional experts are saying about Geno Smith. NFL.com is comparing Geno to Jason Campbell. Chiefs might as well just take Jones #1 and then trade for Jason Campbell. Lookit the NFL.com QB Analysis:

NOT THE ANSWER: Teams looking to answer their QB question aren't going to find one in the 2013 draft

By Bucky Brooks
Analyst, NFL.com and NFL Network
Published: Jan. 2, 2013

1) Geno Smith, West Virginia

Smith faltered down the stretch against the tougher defenses of the Big 12; scouts started to have concerns about his ability to find his secondary options in the route progression when opponents take away his primary receiver with blanket coverage. He struggled to consistently identify the open receiver in games against Oklahoma, Kansas State and Texas Tech, a trend that continued in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl against Syracuse. Although Smith completed 66.7 percent of his passes with two touchdowns and zero interceptions, he was sacked three times and repeatedly looked confused when the Orange took away his No. 1 option. As a result, Syracuse blew out West Virginia, 38-14.

Pro comparison: Jason Campbell

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-04-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Thats not as crazy as it looks at first glance when you consider the stuff the professional experts are saying about Geno Smith. NFL.com is comparing Geno to Jason Campbell. Chiefs might as well just take Jones #1 and then trade for Jason Campbell. Lookit the NFL.com QB Analysis:

NOT THE ANSWER: Teams looking to answer their QB question aren't going to find one in the 2013 draft

By Bucky Brooks
Analyst, NFL.com and NFL Network
Published: Jan. 2, 2013

1) Geno Smith, West Virginia

Smith faltered down the stretch against the tougher defenses of the Big 12; scouts started to have concerns about his ability to find his secondary options in the route progression when opponents take away his primary receiver with blanket coverage. He struggled to consistently identify the open receiver in games against Oklahoma, Kansas State and Texas Tech, a trend that continued in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl against Syracuse. Although Smith completed 66.7 percent of his passes with two touchdowns and zero interceptions, he was sacked three times and repeatedly looked confused when the Orange took away his No. 1 option. As a result, Syracuse blew out West Virginia, 38-14.

Pro comparison: Jason Campbell

That's laughable. Geno might not work out in the NFL but he's nothing like Jason Campbell.

mcaj22 · 01-04-2013, 02:44 PM

This guy is pretty good.

Maybe he's not a fit for us because of what we have at OLBer, but still, this guy is a talent. Some team will be happy to have him in the top 5/top 3/maybe even #1 overall (if we can trade the #1 pick for 2 or 3 and still get our QB, who gives a shit. This guy will be coveted, that could help in our favor)

Ugly Duck · 01-04-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

That's laughable. Geno might not work out in the NFL but he's nothing like Jason Campbell.

Ease up on the kid... once he gets a little NFL experience under his belt, he could be....

O.city · 01-04-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

This guy is pretty good.

Maybe he's not a fit for us because of what we have at OLBer, but still, this guy is a talent. Some team will be happy to have him in the top 5/top 3/maybe even #1 overall (if we can trade the #1 pick for 2 or 3 and still get our QB, who gives a shit. This guy will be coveted, that could help in our favor)

He is a good player, but he's probably not the best pass rusher int he draft plus he has a fairly big medical concern.

ForeverChiefs58 · 01-04-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

While I hate the thought of taking a LT so high, I'd be a lot more willing to listen to it if there was a great LT in this draft. There isn't.

Joeckel is about the 5th-best tackle in the last 4 or 5 years.

The first overall pick should be spent on a pick that addresses why you have the worst record to begin with.

No other position put us where we are now more than QB and better be addressed first and foremost.

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Potential top pick Jarvis Jones enters NFL draft Potential top pick Jarvis Jones enters NFL draft Posted by Michael David Smith on January 4, 2013, 12:20 PM EST AP Jarvis Jones, a Georgia outside linebacker who is viewed as a potential first overall pick in the 2013 NFL draft, has made his decision: He’s leaving school to go pro. That decision has been expected all year, as Jones has been discussed as one of the best pro prospects in college football. ESPN’s Mel Kiper ranks Jones as the best player at any position in this year’s draft. Jones has led the SEC in sacks in each of the last two seasons, and he also led the NCAA in forced fumbles in 2012. There may be questions, however, about whether he’s a consistent every-down player, and there could also be questions about his injury history: He started his college career at USC and transferred after the school’s doctors recommended that he quit football because of spinal stenosis. Georgia’s doctors have cleared him to play and he has had no further neck problems, but he did have ankle, groin and shoulder injuries that hampered him at times in 2012 and caused him to miss two games. If Jones is healthy, however, scouts may drool over his ability to get to the quarterback. With the Chiefs owning the first overall pick in the draft, Andy Reid could be coaching Jones in Kansas City next year.
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01-04-2013, 02:11 PM	#47
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	If they don't draft a QB....then it will be because they draft Moore. And that's only going to happen if they go back to the 4-3 and they don't think that Hali and Houston can be bookends.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	If it were me and we are sticking with a 34, we need pass rushers on the dline. Not at OLB, we have those.
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01-04-2013, 02:27 PM	#50
ChiefMojo Happy, Happy, Happy!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10004935	I would love Jones if we didn't have Hali and Houston. Not a position of need. Frankly with the #1 pick, it has to be QB or at worst LT.
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01-04-2013, 02:32 PM	#51
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	With new Gm's and HC's. We don't currently have a QB worth keeping on the roster and even if we had an average one, it would be an uphill battle for him to stick around. It's just the way things go. So, currently no QB, new HC, GM etc, and the first overall pick. It's really not that hard to put two and tow together.
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01-04-2013, 02:44 PM	#57
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	This guy is pretty good. Maybe he's not a fit for us because of what we have at OLBer, but still, this guy is a talent. Some team will be happy to have him in the top 5/top 3/maybe even #1 overall (if we can trade the #1 pick for 2 or 3 and still get our QB, who gives a shit. This guy will be coveted, that could help in our favor)
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