Chiefs Go on record: What will make the Reid regime a success? - Page 10

**Buehler445** · 07-23-2013, 07:24 PM

So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?

milkman · 07-24-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdumbGuy

Herm was the worst. He ushered in this era of crapulence with his proclamation that we didn't have any need for one of the best offenses in the NFL. We lost our identity completely under Herm and we never recovered.

Everybody keeps bringing up the players we brought in under herm, but so what, it's not like we've actually done anything with those players.

Vermeil gets a B+ because at least we had a team that could legitimately compete for a championship. Herm, Haley, Crennel - F. F-. **** it. Z-.

At least you have named yourself approprately.

No way in hell that Dick's teams could legitimately compete for SBs with that sorry sack of shit defense.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-24-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do you understand English?

More False Narrative.

If an NFL QB had been available in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Chiefs would have spent one draft choice to select him. In this case, there wasn't a player available so they traded a draft choice for a QB.

What this means is that in reality, the Chiefs only spent ONE draft choice to acquire a QB, not two.

So far, they've pretty much sucked a dick to further the cause of more dick suckage.

milkman · 07-24-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They spent a pick on a QB. That's all that matters.

The additional pick was for the trade.

You're spinning.

No matter how you spin it, two picks were spent on Alex Smith.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

So far, they've pretty much sucked a dick to further the cause of more dick suckage.

I'm more than happy to defer to your knowledge of that subject.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-24-2013, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm more than happy to defer to your knowledge on that subject.

FlaChief58 · 07-24-2013, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

At least you have named yourself approprately.

No way in hell that Dick's teams could legitimately compete for SBs with that sorry sack of shit defense.

This, with an average D, that team could have won it all

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-24-2013, 03:17 PM

Andy is here to win a Championship. He would say the same thing in that if he doesn't win one, he failed.

Frazod · 07-24-2013, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58

This, with an average D, that team could have won it all

With merely a bad D, that team would have won at least one Super Bowl. Unfortunately, it was beyond bad - it was an abomination. I'll never forgive Vermeil for that.

And even then, if they'd played anybody in the playoffs but the Colts in the 2003 playoffs, they would have had an excellent shot. Just sucks that we ran into the one team that could match us score for score.

AdumbGuy · 07-24-2013, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

At least you have named yourself approprately.

No way in hell that Dick's teams could legitimately compete for SBs with that sorry sack of shit defense.

I named myself that to help me figure out who the cleverest of the clever folks with the bestest, most creativest insults were.

Our sad sack defense lost to what, the 2nd best offense in the league in the Colts? 13-3 that year, 10-6 the next and only a quirk kept us out of the playoffs? We absolutely were contenders, even with that mediocre defense. More to the point, we had refined a potent offensive system that we never should have throttled considering the current offense friendly state of the NFL.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

You're spinning.

No matter how you spin it, two picks were spent on Alex Smith.

One pick was spent on a QB and one pick was spent trading for said QB.

Extra Point · 07-24-2013, 03:28 PM

Reid is a players' coach, and is a good judge of talent; he makes do with what he has, and doesn't have a problem getting talent when it's needed. Dorsey and Hunt are wanting results, and all are on the same page: Butts in seats. You get butts in seats here, from winning.

**HemiEd** · 07-24-2013, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru

You consider that success?

My standards are pretty low for this team since they have done neither since most of our military men have been born.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-24-2013, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No shit.

Jesus Christ, people. You're aware that every other team in the league is paid to beat you as well, yes?

A success? Make the playoffs more years than you don't and be a legitimate threat to do some damage when you're there over the next 3-5 years.

I'm not going to say "no playoff wins = shit" because frankly, the NFL has more lucky bounces and fluke plays that determine seasons than any other sport out there. Marty Schottenhiemers entire time in KC is viewed differently if not for a phantom offensive PI call and a missed kick. That's it. And those 2 events have also made Chiefs fans largely insane.

Sure, winning a SB is the ultimate goal and duh - doing so makes the Reid era a success. But if the Chiefs are steadily in a position to compete for one, actually compete for one (not that 2010 smoke and mirrors shit), I don't see how you can't call this a successful era.

Reid took over a shitty franchise, fellas. It's time to realize that and accept it. This team is a joke in NFL circles. While we're circling games against the Jags and Cardinals as must-wins, everyone else is circling KC. There is one big !@#$ing hill for Andy Reid to climb and it's time we have reasonable expectations of when we'll be willing to give him credit for doing a fine job of it.

I agree with this, but most of the rest of the board certainly does not.

Guys want to have it both ways - "this team is the most talented in the division, 3rd most talented in AFC" etc. - yet people are saying that a SINGLE playoff win in the 5-10 years he'll likely be here is "success"?

I don't give a **** what happened in the past, because it can't be changed.

But they've made "win-now" moves, so I expect them to win right ****ing now. Playoffs in 2013. A win or two in 2014. And at least a SB appearance or win by the time Andy leaves KC.

The rest of you (not you, DJ) can talk out of both sides of your mouth and enjoy mediocrity, I'm going to demand better.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-24-2013, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm sorry but I disagree.

There have been many very good coaches that have produced contending teams, year after year, that never won a Super Bowl.

Guys like Chuck Knox, John Robinson, Dan Reeves, John Fox, Jeff Fisher, Marv Levy and on and on and on.

If a coach is consistently fielding a team that has a very good chance at appearing in a Super Bowl, I don't know how that can be considered anything but a success.

People have said that a single playoff win in the 5-10 years AR will likely be here is considered success.

A single playoff win in 5-10 years does not equal a team that has a "very good chance" at appearing in a Super Bowl.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

People have said that a single playoff win in the 5-10 years AR will likely be here is considered success.

A single playoff win in 5-10 years does not equal a team that has a "very good chance" at appearing in a Super Bowl.

I don't think Andy Reid will be the Chiefs coach for ten years if he doesn't consistently win in the playoffs. I'm not even sure if he'd be the Chiefs coach after his contract expires in five years if he only has a single playoff win.

I think that Clark Hunt is willing to give coaches and GM's five years tops and if his level of expectations aren't met, he's on to another regime.

07-23-2013, 07:24 PM
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1415266	Go on record: What will make the Reid regime a success? So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?
Posts: 59,936

07-24-2013, 03:17 PM	#142
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $348880	Andy is here to win a Championship. He would say the same thing in that if he doesn't win one, he failed. __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
Posts: 72,932

07-24-2013, 03:28 PM	#146
Extra Point MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Prairie Village, KS Casino cash: $10004900	Reid is a players' coach, and is a good judge of talent; he makes do with what he has, and doesn't have a problem getting talent when it's needed. Dorsey and Hunt are wanting results, and all are on the same page: Butts in seats. You get butts in seats here, from winning.
Posts: 7,845