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Old 07-23-2013, 07:24 PM  
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Go on record: What will make the Reid regime a success?
So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:47 PM   #121
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Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.

Regardless, in 50 seasons, the Chiefs have had four seasons in which the team was .500.

Attempting to ascribe that as an aspiration or status quo is absurd.
So mediocrity, then? That's okay?

Mmm...just as I've pretty much speculated since we pissed away the house on Smith.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:49 PM   #122
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Turnaround? Sure. Win a Super Bowl? Not so sure.
Quite frankly, I think your expectations and hopes are far too low.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:49 PM   #123
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5 years is plenty of time to completely turn things around.
3 years is plenty. And given the fact that they've hitched their wagon to an old QB, there shouldn't be growing pains. Like I said before I expect playoffs this year Super Bowl in 3.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:52 PM   #124
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Now that you've had the time to digest that, then we have to look at the goal.

If the goal is to win a SB and you fail to achieve that, then ultimately while not a failure, you also can not claim success.
But the franchise can be deemed successful as long as the team is winning consistently, the fan base is satisfied and the ownership isn't losing money.

Fielding a consistent team is more important than a one-off Super Bowl victory, especially when said team goes back to the dungeon from which it arose (see the St. Louis Rams and Tampa Bay Bucs).

While I agree that a Super Bowl victory is the ultimate goal of the players, franchise employees and fans, coming short of that goal doesn't indicate failure on any level.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:52 PM   #125
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Quite frankly, I think your expectations and hopes are far too low.
That's what 20 years without a playoff win and .314 winning percentage can do.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:53 PM   #126
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NOT Drafting Geno Smith.

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3 years is plenty. And given the fact that they've hitched their wagon to an old QB, there shouldn't be growing pains. Like I said before I expect playoffs this year Super Bowl in 3.
If this were a team lacking talent, then 5 years would be the target for fielding a competitve team.

But this team has talent.

There should be no excuses for 2015 and beyond.
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So mediocrity, then? That's okay?
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Mmm...just as I've pretty much speculated since we pissed away the house on Smith.
More False Narrative.



If an NFL QB had been available in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Chiefs would have spent one draft choice to select him. In this case, there wasn't a player available so they traded a draft choice for a QB.

What this means is that in reality, the Chiefs only spent ONE draft choice to acquire a QB, not two.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:59 PM   #129
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If an NFL QB had been available in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Chiefs would have spent one draft choice to select him. In this case, there wasn't a player available so they traded a draft choice for a QB.
I'd be curious to hear what you're basing this assumption on.
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:00 PM   #130
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I'd argue that Frank Ganz was at least as bad as Crennel.
Herm was the worst. He ushered in this era of crapulence with his proclamation that we didn't have any need for one of the best offenses in the NFL. We lost our identity completely under Herm and we never recovered.

Everybody keeps bringing up the players we brought in under herm, but so what, it's not like we've actually done anything with those players.

Vermeil gets a B+ because at least we had a team that could legitimately compete for a championship. Herm, Haley, Crennel - F. F-. **** it. Z-.
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More False Narrative.



If an NFL QB had been available in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Chiefs would have spent one draft choice to select him. In this case, there wasn't a player available so they traded a draft choice for a QB.

What this means is that in reality, the Chiefs only spent ONE draft choice to acquire a QB, not two.
If the Chiefs had drafted a QB, they would have spent one pick on that QB.

They spent 2 picks on Alex Smith.
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If the Chiefs had drafted a QB, they would have spent one pick on that QB.

They spent 2 picks on Alex Smith.
They spent a pick on a QB. That's all that matters.

The additional pick was for the trade.
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I'd be curious to hear what you're basing this assumption on.
What assumption?
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:03 PM   #134
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I'd argue that Crennel was worse because he didn't have one unit that excelled in any area. At least Gansz had decent special teams. Crennel didn't have anything to rest his hat on.

Oh, and no one killed himself at Arrowhead under Gansz.



Actually, I can't remember what the special teams were like when Ganz was the head coach. Certainly when he was the special teams coach they were in a class by themselves.
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