The Official "It's so early but what the hell" mock draft

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

The advisory board is high as shit. Guys with his size, build and, more importantly - production, are rare as hen's teeth.

If it's as you say, the guy showed up out of shape for the 2013 season, he still kicked ass with 7.5 sacks and all that went with it.

Now, it (Tuitt/Nix) could be a Mario Williams/rest of the NC State Defensive line or Julius Peppers/Ryan Sims thing where you have one guy kicking the shit out of stuff and the other guy cleaning up on it, both get drafted high in the NFL Draft, but it's obvious early that it's the one guy versus two or more guys having that talent level, but I don't think Kelly would have put up such a bitch about Tuitt leaving early if he wasn't the keystone of that defense.

I don't necessarily like him at the same stage as I did Michael Brockers for the five tech position, and it ultimately depends on what they do with Jackson in free agency, but Tuitt has a tremendous ceiling IMO.

That being said, that's why the guy isn't going to be around when the Chiefs pick. No way, no how. If I was one of the teams picking in the top ten, I'd be very tempted to take him over anybody in this draft. I think Jake Matthews is the best player in this draft, and then you could make the argument that Tuitt is right there behind him.

And the Joe Don pick is still awesome. Although, if I was picking a tight end around that area, Fresno State's Marcel Jensen is the guy. Huge, athletic and has a very high football IQ.

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[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Random dude on a message board > NFL advisory board talking to actual NFL people who actually draft people

If Tyson Jackson and Michael Brockers got first round grades, which they did, there must be something significant about Tuitt and his game.

And, to that point, I've watched a couple of games from the 2013 season highlighting Tuitt and he, frankly, struggled, especially against the better competition. Gets stood up easily in one on one matchups, isn't fluid at all in his pursuit, and despite his size, he doesn't exhibit very good functional strength. (I went back and watched some of his games from 2012, and he was definitely quicker two seasons ago versus last season, but he's not overpowering. He really doesn't possess a quality bull rush and gets stood up a lot at the point of attack. He did most of his damage when they lined him up wide, and he won't be afforded that luxury as a 34 five tech.)

If you guys want this dude over Tyson Jackson, you are going to be severely disappointed. Tyson Jackson was a significantly better player at the same level and has become a very good run defender from the five tech. Tuitt is not going to be a pass rushing, pocket collapsing terror at the next level.

He gets absolutely worked in the USC game:



In fact, I think that the NFL advisory second round grade is about right and maybe generous.

I don't think I'd take him as a 43 DT either and he's certainly not a 34 five tech. He might get away with a subpackage, third down guy, but we've already got Bailey and Catapano.

Waste of a pick for the Chiefs IMO.