Reaction to Marcus smart shoving a fan

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Ban him for calling Smart a piece of crap?

Yes, if that's in fact what he said (and I don't see how any reasonable person could actually believe that based on what we know).

If they start banning every fan that says something derogatory towards a player from an opposing team, Allen Field House is going to be pretty empty.

Good. If people can't attend a game without insulting college athletes personally, they don't deserve to be there.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, if that's in fact what he said (and I don't see how any reasonable person could actually believe that based on what we know).


Good. If people can't attend a game without insulting college athletes personally, they don't deserve to be there.

You admit you hear "piece of" on the video. What do you think would logically follow that? At the very least we know Smart is a liar. This is no worse than yelling "you suck" at an opposing player. Shit like that happens at every college basketball game played and to my knowledge Smart is the only player to shove a fan.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

You admit you hear "piece of" on the video. What do you think would logically follow that?

I take it you've never heard someone called a piece of shit ****er before. I have. The other thing about the video is that we can't hear anything else after the initial voice. There could have been much more there, but the dialogue seems to immediately shut off after what sounds like "piece of." You can come up with your own conclusions as to why that might be.

At the very least we know Smart is a liar.

Except we don't. Not at all.

Again, just like last night, the rush to defend this asshole fan who has a history of making derogatory statements at these games towards college athletes is pretty amazing to me.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Again, just like last night, the rush to defend this asshole fan who has a history of making derogatory statements at these games towards college athletes is pretty amazing to me.

I think it's crazy that so many are rushing to condemn the fan who got physically assaulted, by saying it's okay because poor wittle marcus smart was called a name.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I think it's crazy that so many are rushing to condemn the fan who got physically assaulted, by saying it's okay because poor wittle marcus smart was called a name.

You posted this no less than an hour ago:

Yeah this guy is gonna get whats coming to him, worse than Marcus Smart. Thats whats great about our society. These things usually govern themselves

Then apparently some bullshit Tech video that proves absolutely nothing caused a complete 180.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You posted this no less than an hour ago:



Then apparently some bullshit Tech video that proves absolutely nothing caused a complete 180.

Yep. Cuz so many ppl on twitter were saying he said "Go Back to Africa". Hell, I was starting to believe it. If he said that, I would have totally different tune. Only person saying Orr said something other than "piece of crap" is Marcus "flopping in life" Smart.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Yep. Cuz so many ppl on twitter were saying he said "Go Back to Africa". Hell, I was starting to believe it. If he said that, I would have totally different tune. Only person saying Orr said something other than "piece of crap" is Marcus "flopping in life" Smart.

My advice would be not to believe everything you read. If your opinion can take a complete 180 on the basis of an excuse that clearly sets off the bullshit detectors and a video that proves nothing at all, perhaps you're just a bit too easily swayed.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I take it you've never heard someone called a piece of shit ****er before. I have. The other thing about the video is that we can't hear anything else after the initial voice. There could have been much more there, but the dialogue seems to immediately shut off after what sounds like "piece of." You can come up with your own conclusions as to why that might be.


Except we don't. Not at all.

Again, just like last night, the rush to defend this asshole fan who has a history of making derogatory statements at these games towards college athletes is pretty amazing to me.

KC Connection, and his blind torch carrying is all that is wrong with this society. His behavior on this matter is exactly the same of virtually 99% of politicians in this country... It's comical.

Pick a side and defend it at all costs without objectivity.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Zeke

KC Connection, and his blind torch carrying is all that is wrong with this society. His behavior on this matter is exactly the same of virtually 99% of politicians in this country... It's comical.

What exactly might those "sides" be? And which one am I on? If it's the "asshole fans shouldn't be able to say whatever the hell they want to college athletes" and the "people shouldn't be able to attack others based solely on insults" side, then yeah, I'm with those.

If you missed my post earlier on the actual issues at play, here it is again:

Call me a pacifist, but for me, on a broader level, I don't think people should be able to attack others solely on the basis of insults (even awful racist ones). Sets a horrible precedent to follow. There has to be some limit in response there. But does that doesn't mean Smart and others should have to just sit there and take this kind of abuse from fans either. There also needs to be some accountability in these situations.

Smart will get suspended (and perhaps rightfully so), but I don't look down on him in the slightest for what he did. It looks like this guy deserved what he got and is lucky it wasn't more.

Pick a side and defend it at all costs without objectivity.

Nobody is fully objective about anything. It's simply impossible to be so. The only difference is that some can admit that and most can't.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Nobody is fully objective about anything. It's simply impossible to be so. The only difference is that some can admit that and most can't.

Lol that's one of the most obscure straw men I can remember on this forum.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Lol that's one of the most obscure straw men I can remember on this forum.

What's obscure about it and why is it a straw man? Do you believe true objectivity actually exists? Because everyone has biases based on their experiences/perspectives. I can actually admit to mine in this instance (I'm a huge fan of Smart and hate this kind of fan culture). Can you?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Zeke

KC Connection, and his blind torch carrying is all that is wrong with this society. His behavior on this matter is exactly the same of virtually 99% of politicians in this country... It's comical.

Pick a side and defend it at all costs without objectivity.

Clearly Texas Tech had the video doctored to remove "piece of shit N--" to "piece of shit". This is the best form of evidence to prove what was actually said one way or another, but, Smart apologist claim it does not exist.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I've come to two conclusions about this...

The real racists are shown in all of this.

Smart is a mental midget that needs professional counseling.