Reaction to Marcus smart shoving a fan

[chiefzilla1501]

Http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=10426105

Just curious... If the fan called Smart a racial slur, was he justified for shoving the fan.

I think its an interesting debate about where the line should be drawn for fans to get away with jawing at players. Let's first see if there's any truth to this. My personal opinion is that sports should have leeway for fan behavior, but there's a line that fans too often cross.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

In the middle of this cover up, Texas Tech has created a fake video with fake audio to support the story. Got it.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

You heard "piece of shit" from a video where the camera isn't focused on the guy.....and it's a given that he's the one that said it? An entire stadium and the camera picked up the words from one guy only? For all anyone knows....it could be the cameraman saying piece of shit for getting knocked over.

Hold your cell phone up at a game, say something, and see how it sounds based on the background noise. Wasn't the camera man.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

The video is hilarious. I love the dumb bitch clapping in his face as he confronts Orr. Then he reaches over her to shove the loser and she ducks and covers in horror. Big, angry black man! Scary!

Good lord. Big 6 foot 4 inch 230 pound elite athlete. You are sounding like the racist here. Women cowers back in fear after husband gets pushed, pretty natural reaction. Don't see how that has to do with race.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by npayne1978

It doesn't matter what the fan called Smart, even if he was called the n-word (and I don't think he was) he should've turned his back and walked away. In 1947 there was a player named Jackie Robinson and if a guy like Jackie Robinson could handle everything that he had to deal with then these guys in the 21st century certainly can handle these sorts of things.

One person tweeted to me that Jackie Robinson would never have gone into the stands when called a racial slur. This “Jackie Robinson: model minority” nonsense needs to be unpacked. First of all, that was 1947. Times have changed. Second, Jackie Robinson, a husband and a father, would have risked organized violence, as in lynch mobs, if he had pursed a physical response against fans. Third, Jackie Robinson was a 26-year-old Army veteran and a college graduate from UCLA. He also carried the hopes and dreams of masses of people with every at-bat. To ask a 19-year-old Marcus Smart to act in accordance with Jackie Robinson is a ridiculous weight to ask Mr. Smart to carry. And lastly Jackie Robinson, if you read his searing memoir, I Never Had It Made, had real regrets about not going into the stands and pummeling racists with what he called “my despised black fists”. Jackie Robinson died way too young at age 53. He and his family always believed that his early death was connected to the stress that he had to carry precisely because he kept it all bottled in on direct orders from the Brooklyn Dodgers organization and on society’s orders, shaped by the pre-civil rights times in which he played.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/178292...t-pushing-fan#

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Good lord. Big 6 foot 4 inch 230 pound elite athlete. You are sounding like the racist here. Women cowers back in fear after husband gets pushed, pretty natural reaction. Don't see how that has to do with race.

Not saying the lady is racist. Just a really hilarious moment. Not the wife, btw.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Again, just like last night, the rush to defend this asshole fan who has a history of making derogatory statements at these games towards college athletes is pretty amazing to me.

I think it's crazy that so many are rushing to condemn the fan who got physically assaulted, by saying it's okay because poor wittle marcus smart was called a name.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Okay lets hear ONE fan, just one, go on record who was in the vicinity claim he said something other than that. It hasn't happened yet. Angry mob on twitter jumped to the race conclusion. If I heard ANY fan say the N-word at Allen Field House, i'd let them know about it right away and would let everybody know about how repulsive such behavior is.

Until someone in the vicinity goes public to deny it, this also means jack shit too.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Im surprised this hasn't been posted yet. Same guy. Popular clip among aggie fans and it's now getting more attention . Wait for the end.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I think it's crazy that so many are rushing to condemn the fan who got physically assaulted, by saying it's okay because poor wittle marcus smart was called a name.

You posted this no less than an hour ago:

Yeah this guy is gonna get whats coming to him, worse than Marcus Smart. Thats whats great about our society. These things usually govern themselves

Then apparently some bullshit Tech video that proves absolutely nothing caused a complete 180.

[BWillie]

Also, you expect us to believe anything Marcus Smart says? The same guy that flops more than any player in college basketball. It's not reasonable to assume that he's "flopping" on this one by claiming to coaches afterwards he was called a racial slur to neutralize the situation? Smart's not stupid. I'm sure after he did that, he was thinking, shit...what can I do to make me come out of this looking the best way possible.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Sooooo your point is?

I believe his point was that Texas Tech University is not a particularly credible source on this issue. Shocking, I know.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You posted this no less than an hour ago:



Then apparently some bullshit Tech video that proves absolutely nothing caused a complete 180.

Yep. Cuz so many ppl on twitter were saying he said "Go Back to Africa". Hell, I was starting to believe it. If he said that, I would have totally different tune. Only person saying Orr said something other than "piece of crap" is Marcus "flopping in life" Smart.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Also, you expect us to believe anything Marcus Smart says? The same guy that flops more than any player in college basketball. It's not reasonable to assume that he's "flopping" on this one by claiming to coaches afterwards he was called a racial slur to neutralize the situation? Smart's not stupid. I'm sure after he did that, he was thinking, shit...what can I do to make me come out of this looking the best way possible.

Yes, he came up with this deceitful plan to smear this guy within seconds of shoving him. He even got the guy he shoved to text one of his friends after the game that he went too far and felt bad about it. That evil genius, Marcus Smart.

Hilarious the lengths some are going.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, he came up with this deceitful plan to smear this guy within seconds of shoving him. He even got the guy he shoved to text one of his friends after the game that he went too far and felt bad about it. That evil genius, Marcus Smart.

Hilarious the lengths some are going.

Well he flops within quasi seconds of seeing an elbow. Certainly plausible. If he was so sure he was called a racial slur, how come he would apologize to the fan Orr, and why wouldn't they hint more at it being a racial slur in the press conference? If you are called a racial slur, you don't apologize to the individual themselves. If it indeed was a racial slur, it would be Smart's best interest to come out and say that is what he at least "thought he heard" and overreacted.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Yep. Cuz so many ppl on twitter were saying he said "Go Back to Africa". Hell, I was starting to believe it. If he said that, I would have totally different tune. Only person saying Orr said something other than "piece of crap" is Marcus "flopping in life" Smart.

My advice would be not to believe everything you read. If your opinion can take a complete 180 on the basis of an excuse that clearly sets off the bullshit detectors and a video that proves nothing at all, perhaps you're just a bit too easily swayed.