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Old 04-05-2014, 07:40 AM  
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:16 PM   #586
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I don't see anyone saying that it's ALL about the draft. They brought in guys last year in FA at positions that needed immediate help in order for this team to be relatively competitive.

Dorsey said as much when he mentioned needing to break the culture of losing cycle with this team.

With those pieces in place, they will now go about building the team, filling in the pieces through the draft (for the most part). Like most good teams do.

I think you are taking too much of a "black or white/either or" perspective here.
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:38 PM   #587
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When this team is getting pummeled by good quarterbacks because of the teams continued poor play from its safeties, just remember how many good ones were out there in free agency at every price point.

Want the best one in the NFL? Jarius Byrd signed for 9/yr
Want a second tier beast? TJ Ward signed for under 6/yr
Want a fantastic value? How about Clemons for dirt cheap...

When we are wishing we had more playmakers on offense, just remember how we didn't close the deal with Sanders and Desean Jackson signed for only 8/yr

When Jeff Allen still sucks, just remember we could have signed Evan Dietrich Smith for dirt cheap and moved Hudson to left guard.
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:40 PM   #588
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When this team is getting pummeled by good quarterbacks because of the teams continued poor play from its safeties, just remember how many good ones were out there in free agency at every price point.

Want the best one in the NFL? Jarius Byrd signed for 9/yr
Want a second tier beast? TJ Ward signed for under 6/yr
Want a fantastic value? How about Clemons for dirt cheap...

When we are wishing we had more playmakers on offense, just remember how we didn't close the deal with Sanders and Desean Jackson signed for only 8/yr

When Jeff Allen still sucks, just remember we could have signed Evan Dietrich Smith for dirt cheap and moved Hudson to left guard.
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:44 PM   #589
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I actually think we will have a much better year than most think and have shown my reasoning for such a stance, but the weaknesses this roster has could have been eliminated going into the draft with a little maneuvering here and there...which it seems these guys are unwilling to do.
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:53 PM   #590
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In a strange twist of fate here's another buddy of mine (both in LA) who met Cassel and hung out with him. This buddy is actually a Chiefs fan.
Did he put Cassel's hat on for him?
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I don't have a problem with the move.

I have a problem with them putting so much effort into explaining to the fans that it's ALL about the draft when we can all plainly see that it's not.

This kind of doublespeak bullshit should have left with Pioli.
Have to go outside your comfort zone when your best QB on the roster is a middling backup.
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I know we don't really want to like Alex Smith because of team history and seeing a pic of Cassel further solidify s that thought process, but I truly believe that the guy is gonna have a big year in 2014.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:38 PM   #593
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I know we don't really want to like Alex Smith because of team history and seeing a pic of Cassel further solidify s that thought process, but I truly believe that the guy is gonna have a big year in 2014.
Which is the absolute worst thing that can happen if this team wants to seriously move forward in rebuilding.

Unless the man wants to accept the fact he's keeping the seat warm for a true franchise QB that the team should happen to come across and is willing to be paid as such.

Kansas City cannot give that guy a Tony Romo or Jay Cutler contract at all.
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Which is the absolute worst thing that can happen if this team wants to seriously move forward in rebuilding.

Unless the man wants to accept the fact he's keeping the seat warm for a true franchise QB that the team should happen to come across and is willing to be paid as such.

Kansas City cannot give that guy a Tony Romo or Jay Cutler contract at all.
And yet Tony Romo and Jay Cutler got Tony Romo or Jay Cutler level deals.

And then one has to consider that Smith is younger and is at least the equal of either player.
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And yet Tony Romo and Jay Cutler got Tony Romo or Jay Cutler level deals.

And then one has to consider that Smith is younger and is at least the equal of either player.
Elway at 37/38, Brad Johnson at 34, Steve Young 33 years old are the oldest QBs to win a Superbowl since the the Free Agency period began. Eli and Brees were 31, Peyton 30.

Odds are Smith isn't winning anything more than a conference title at best by the time this team is ready to compete.


Also, here's a chart showing the production of WRs and RBs to further illustrate why this team is more likely to crater than it is to actually win a postseason contest considering JC is KC's only consistent offensive threat:
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The whole team has to be rebuilt to be truly competitive. It's going to take two or three drafts like 2008 to be a complete team.

They need to play for 2018 and a handful of superbowls rather than the one and done every third year like their on track for now.

The sooner the FO realizes this the better.
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Have to go outside your comfort zone when your best QB on the roster is a middling backup.
Then don't try so hard to sell people on an idea that you don't fully believe in.

Why can't they just come out and say exactly what you just said?

Because then they can't explain this offseason, that's why.
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And yet Tony Romo and Jay Cutler got Tony Romo or Jay Cutler level deals.

And then one has to consider that Smith is younger and is at least the equal of either player.
Romo and Cutler got their contracts. And now they'll never get rings.
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