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Old 04-21-2014, 12:26 PM  
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Rishaw Johnson penciled in as RG starter
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The Chiefs have penciled in Rishaw Johnson as their starting right guard.

Signed off Kansas City's practice squad last September, Johnson showed promise in a Week 17 spot start against San Diego. The Seahawks were also high on Johnson at one point during his 2012 undrafted rookie season. The Chiefs have a ton of holes to fill on the offensive line after losing key guards Geoff Schwartz and Jon Asamoah, as well at left tackle Branden Albert in free agency.
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Old 04-22-2014, 05:56 PM   #181
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So you hope.
My position is just as valid as this bitchfest shit about taking a guard in the 1st.
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Old 04-22-2014, 05:57 PM   #182
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We're not overrating Svhwartz, based on his play in KC, he showed he can start and play well. He had nagging injuries in the past and politics, which limited his playing time. However, when he played, he played well. He played himself into a starters role last season. Ill take that type of player any day.
thats because competiton at positions and a player earning a starting spot without it being gifted to him rarely happens on the Chiefs

Schwartz beat out a 3rd round Pioli lineman pick who was overrated on this forum for years, and Schwartz came in and proved that. Thats why people like Schwartz he came in and beat out a starter.

Who does Joe Mays have to beat out? Who does Sanders Commings have to beat out? who does anyone at RG have to beat out?

We have ****in nobodies at a lot of positions
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:24 AM   #183
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And you are doing what you always do, which is to undersell how exaggerated your side of the debate has been.

Give me a ****ing break. If one side believes you shouldn't burn high draft picks on linemen (and I'm one of them), then that means you don't think the position is important. If one side believes linemen aren't playmakers or difference makers (and I'm one of them), then that means you don't think the position is important.

If you truly believe in what you're saying, then you should have no hesitation to give a guy like Rishaw Jackson, Eric Kush, or Rokevius Watkins a shot at starting at Guard. Instead, we're going to hear people bitch about not paying $5M for a Guard or spending $9M for a Left Tackle.
One side gets ****ing tired of true fan and media dildo telling us that we need to draft a lineman in the first round every year.

I personally think interior lineman are undervalued, but I also believe that you can find those guys in the mid rounds far more consistently than playmakers on the outside of an offense or the back end of a defense.

And I personally have not complained about giving Rishaw Johnson an opportunity.

Would I have liked to re-sign Shwartz?
Sure.

But I am not overly concerned with it.
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:56 AM   #184
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One side gets ****ing tired of true fan and media dildo telling us that we need to draft a lineman in the first round every year.

I personally think interior lineman are undervalued, but I also believe that you can find those guys in the mid rounds far more consistently than playmakers on the outside of an offense or the back end of a defense.

And I personally have not complained about giving Rishaw Johnson an opportunity.

Would I have liked to re-sign Shwartz?
Sure.

But I am not overly concerned with it.
You are not in the majority then. I agree with everything you said here.
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:19 AM   #185
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Reid loved Danny Watkins for the same reasons.

And Martin gives us a guard replacement. If Fisher or Stephenson go down, do you REALLY want him stepping in at tackle? I mean, Jeff Allen would have been in the exact same position to step in at tackle if need be, only one year removed from being the starting LT all three years in college. But we never even considered him as a swing option for guard or tackle.

I'm fine with versatility from our backups. That's just fine and dandy. But I don't want our starting guard shifting over in the middle of a game and bringing up the backup to fill his spot. That makes ZERO sense. You've basically got TWO backups filling in instead of one in that case. Dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.

**** Zach Martin. **** Su'a Filo. **** Chance Warmack. **** David DeCastro. **** Mike Iupati.

**** drafting guards in the first round. Ever.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:26 AM   #186
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Reid loved Danny Watkins for the same reasons.

And Martin gives us a guard replacement. If Fisher or Stephenson go down, do you REALLY want him stepping in at tackle? I mean, Jeff Allen would have been in the exact same position to step in at tackle if need be, only one year removed from being the starting LT all three years in college. But we never even considered him as a swing option for guard or tackle.

I'm fine with versatility from our backups. That's just fine and dandy. But I don't want our starting guard shifting over in the middle of a game and bringing up the backup to fill his spot. That makes ZERO sense. You've basically got TWO backups filling in instead of one in that case. Dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.

**** Zach Martin. **** Su'a Filo. **** Chance Warmack. **** David DeCastro. **** Mike Iupati.

**** drafting guards in the first round. Ever.
Reid is welcome to draft another Danny Watkins at 23rd overall... after he has drafted three playmakers like Desean Jackson, Maclin, and Mccoy.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:31 AM   #187
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Geoff Schwartz is a turd. Rishaw Johnson is a turd. Xavier Sua-filet of fish is a turd.

All guards are turds. That's why they're so replaceable.

**** em.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:32 AM   #188
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Please don't compare HOF players to anyone currently on our roster...
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:33 AM   #189
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Will Shields just sent me a pm. He said for you to blow him.
If we would actually draft Will Shields instead of ****ing around with Jon Asamoahs and Jeff Allens, nobody would be this irate about interior linemen, and all discussion about drafting one in the 1st would cease
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:34 AM   #190
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Will Shields just sent me a pm. He said for you to blow him.
He's one of the best to ever play the game. And I'd still take a top 10 receiver IN THE LEAGUE over the best guard IN HISTORY.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:34 AM   #191
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Will Shields played in how many AFC title games?
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:35 AM   #192
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Please don't compare HOF players to anyone currently on our roster...
I wasn't. I was addressing the all guards are shit statement. Just like I'm addressing your notion that we don't have at least 1 hall of fame caliber player on our roster.
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I wasn't. I was addressing the all guards are shit statement. Just like I'm addressing your notion that we don't have at least 1 hall of fame caliber player on our roster.
I didn't say all guards are shit.

I said they're turds.

It's a subtle difference, but it's there.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:38 AM   #194
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Will Shields played in how many AFC title games?
What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

One player doesn't make a team. How many championship games did Cris Carter and Randy Moss play in?
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What round was Will Shields drafted in?

Hint: not the first
(or the second)
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