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Old 12-30-2014, 12:46 PM   #1
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Yes, it kind of does. You said KC technically paid him $4.6M.

I know you are a dumbass and all and Alex is on your speed dial, so please jump off the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.
The only thing that matters is how much did it count against the cap this year. Can you ladies stop your catfight and just tell me that figure?
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:49 PM   #2
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The only thing that matters is how much did it count against the cap this year. Can you ladies stop your catfight and just tell me that figure?
How the **** does that matter?

He was already on the team with a cap number. They paid him MORE to lower his number and they did what with that extra "saved" money?

Alex Smith was paid $19M to throw 18 TD passes this year. The End.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:52 PM   #3
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How the **** does that matter?

He was already on the team with a cap number. They paid him MORE to lower his number and they did what with that extra "saved" money?

Alex Smith was paid $19M to throw 18 TD passes this year. The End.
A cool $1.055 mil/per TD. Not a bad gig if you can get it.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:13 PM   #4
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A cool $1.055 mil/per TD. Not a bad gig if you can get it.
Lacerated spleen.

That doesn't really sound like a good gig.

If you were a starting NFL QB, would you want to play behind the offensive line that the Chiefs had this past season?
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:16 PM   #5
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Lacerated spleen.

That doesn't really sound like a good gig.

If you were a starting NFL QB, would you want to play behind the offensive line that the Chiefs had this past season?
I'll lacerate my spleen right now for $19M.

6 week recovery, $3,166,666 per week? Yes please.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:19 PM   #6
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I'll lacerate my spleen right now for $19M.

6 week recovery, $3,166,666 per week? Yes please.
so perhaps, all this is from you is bitter bitch jealousy.. that your life is shit while Alex has been swimming in millions since age 20... hmmm...
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:21 PM   #7
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so perhaps, all this is from you is bitter bitch jealousy.. that your life is shit while Alex has been swimming in millions since age 20... hmmm...
My life is fine. I just don't make as much money as Alex and I would gladly switch places with him right now. Are you saying you wouldn't? Wait... that's a dumb question, you two switch places every 30 seconds.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:56 PM   #8
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How the **** does that matter?

He was already on the team with a cap number. They paid him MORE to lower his number and they did what with that extra "saved" money?

Alex Smith was paid $19M to throw 18 TD passes this year. The End.
Yeah, I get your point. Still, you're not as good with the numbers as you think you are. Unless that signing bonus money only counts against the first year of the contract your argument doesn't make sense. Either way, I agree that he's making way too much for the performance on the field.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:58 PM   #9
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Yeah, I get your point. Still, you're not as good with the numbers as you think you are. Unless that signing bonus money only counts against the first year of the contract your argument doesn't make sense. Either way, I agree that he's making way too much for the performance on the field.
What the ****?????

What does his signing bonus counting against his cap number throughout his contract have to do with anything?

He got $19M this year. What don't you understand?
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What the ****?????

What does his signing bonus counting against his cap number throughout his contract have to do with anything?

He got $19M this year. What don't you understand?
I'm asking if you're counting his entire signing bonus into that $19mil number? If so, that's dishonest as a signing bonus is divided into the years of the contract. That's also why I was asking what were the actual figures because I DON'T KNOW AND I AM CURIOUS. Are you saying that his signing bonus is $14 or 15 mil/year? That's crazy and I don't buy it.

Let me give you an example using hypothetical figures since nobody wants to lay out the actual numbers. Let's say, just for hypothetical argument's sake, that Smith was being paid a 5 year contract for 60 million and the portion of that contract that was the signing bonus was $15 million. Then you should only count $3mil of signing bonus plus the regular salary for THIS YEAR.

I know I'm arguing semantics but I hate the dishonest arguments that go on around here a lot lately. Let's at least have honest discussions rather than hyperbole.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:05 PM   #12
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I'm asking if you're counting his entire signing bonus into that $19mil number? If so, that's dishonest as a signing bonus is divided into the years of the contract. That's also why I was asking what were the actual figures. Are you saying that his signing bonus is $14 or 15 mil/year? That's crazy and I don't buy it.

Let me give you an example using hypothetical figures since nobody wants to lay out the actual numbers. Let's say, just for hypothetical argument's sake, that Smith was being paid a 5 year contract for 60 million and the portion of that contract that was the signing bonus was $15 million. Then you should only count $3mil of signing bonus plus the regular salary for THIS YEAR.

I know I'm arguing semantics but I hate the dishonest arguments that go on around here a lot lately. Let's at least have honest discussions rather than hyperbole.
How the **** is adding every penny of what someone was paid dishonest?

Are you BlackBob?
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How the **** is adding every penny of what someone was paid dishonest?

Are you BlackBob?
Oh for crying out loud, man. What are you, 5 years old? Grow up.
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I'm asking if you're counting his entire signing bonus into that $19mil number? If so, that's dishonest as a signing bonus is divided into the years of the contract. That's also why I was asking what were the actual figures because I DON'T KNOW AND I AM CURIOUS. Are you saying that his signing bonus is $14 or 15 mil/year? That's crazy and I don't buy it.

Let me give you an example using hypothetical figures since nobody wants to lay out the actual numbers. Let's say, just for hypothetical argument's sake, that Smith was being paid a 5 year contract for 60 million and the portion of that contract that was the signing bonus was $15 million. Then you should only count $3mil of signing bonus plus the regular salary for THIS YEAR.

I know I'm arguing semantics but I hate the dishonest arguments that go on around here a lot lately. Let's at least have honest discussions rather than hyperbole.
If we're talking actual cash payments, Smith was paid $19M this year. $12M next year. $14M the next year.
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