Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs

[cmh6476]

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I'm asking if you're counting his entire signing bonus into that $19mil number? If so, that's dishonest as a signing bonus is divided into the years of the contract. That's also why I was asking what were the actual figures. Are you saying that his signing bonus is $14 or 15 mil/year? That's crazy and I don't buy it.

Let me give you an example using hypothetical figures since nobody wants to lay out the actual numbers. Let's say, just for hypothetical argument's sake, that Smith was being paid a 5 year contract for 60 million and the portion of that contract that was the signing bonus was $15 million. Then you should only count $3mil of signing bonus plus the regular salary for THIS YEAR.

I know I'm arguing semantics but I hate the dishonest arguments that go on around here a lot lately. Let's at least have honest discussions rather than hyperbole.

How the **** is adding every penny of what someone was paid dishonest?

Are you BlackBob?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by jd1020

How the **** is adding every penny of what someone was paid dishonest?

Are you BlackBob?

Oh for crying out loud, man. What are you, 5 years old? Grow up.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Oh for crying out loud, man. What are you, 5 years old? Grow up.

It's a legit question because I had this same argument with him earlier...

Alex Smith was written a check for $18M as soon as he signed the contract and he was also given a $1M base salary this year. That totals $19M for this year.

So again, how is saying that he was paid $19M this year dishonest?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

http://www.spotrac.com/
http://overthecap.com/

Thank you. So his bonus is 3.6 mil per year. Geez, why is that so hard for some to understand? Of course, this also means that if he were to play only 3 years then that would be adjusted to 6 mil per year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I'm asking if you're counting his entire signing bonus into that $19mil number? If so, that's dishonest as a signing bonus is divided into the years of the contract. That's also why I was asking what were the actual figures because I DON'T KNOW AND I AM CURIOUS. Are you saying that his signing bonus is $14 or 15 mil/year? That's crazy and I don't buy it.

Let me give you an example using hypothetical figures since nobody wants to lay out the actual numbers. Let's say, just for hypothetical argument's sake, that Smith was being paid a 5 year contract for 60 million and the portion of that contract that was the signing bonus was $15 million. Then you should only count $3mil of signing bonus plus the regular salary for THIS YEAR.

I know I'm arguing semantics but I hate the dishonest arguments that go on around here a lot lately. Let's at least have honest discussions rather than hyperbole.

If we're talking actual cash payments, Smith was paid $19M this year. $12M next year. $14M the next year.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Thank you. So his bonus is 3.6 mil per year. Geez, why is that so hard for some to understand? Of course, this also means that if he were to play only 3 years then that would be adjusted to 6 mil per year.

You are BlackBob.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It's a legit question because I had this same argument with him earlier...

Alex Smith was written a check for $18M as soon as he signed the contract and he was also given a $1M base salary this year. That totals $19M for this year.

So again, how is saying that he was paid $19M this year dishonest?

He was not paid $19M for just this year.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Lzen

He was not paid $19M for just this year.

Yes he ****ing was.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Pablo

A cool $1.055 mil/per TD. Not a bad gig if you can get it.

Lacerated spleen.

That doesn't really sound like a good gig.

If you were a starting NFL QB, would you want to play behind the offensive line that the Chiefs had this past season?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It's a legit question because I had this same argument with him earlier...

Alex Smith was written a check for $18M as soon as he signed the contract and he was also given a $1M base salary this year. That totals $19M for this year.

So again, how is saying that he was paid $19M this year dishonest?

Cap cost per year, and what that player does to earn it is all that matters.


You must be really stupid, if you can't process what I am saying here.

4.6 mil cap cost for Alex in 2014.

15.5 mil cap cost for Alex in 2015.

Obsessing about the money handed under the table is lame. Every big contract is going to have guaranteed dollars that have to be regarded in later years... but that is for later years. As of now, dude earned his 4.6, and any other monies earned is not affecting the Chiefs.

The time to bitch is in the future years, IF he is no longer worth what he costs against the KC cap.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Yes he ****ing was.

Good Lord, you are dumb. He was paid $1M for this year plus $18M for this year and the next 4 years (1+4=5). The $18 mil was not for JUST THIS YEAR. It was for this year plus 4 years.

[Hoover]

Who is Trent Green, I only remember TrINT

[johnny961]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And Alex probably isn't anywhere near Trent's yards per attempt or per completion.

Alex never will be a gunslinger. With better protection though it gives the intermediate and longer routes more time to develop.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Good Lord, you are dumb. He was paid $1M for this year plus $18M for this year and the next 4 years (1+4=5). The $18 mil was not for JUST THIS YEAR. It was for this year plus 4 years.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Yes he ****ing was.

And yes, I get the fact that he was actually paid that money up front.