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Old 12-30-2014, 11:06 AM  
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Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs
stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:16 PM   #91
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Who is Trent Green, I only remember TrINT
Heh. Thought of that one the other day. Fans were flaming him pretty good his first couple of years.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:16 PM   #92
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Lacerated spleen.

That doesn't really sound like a good gig.

If you were a starting NFL QB, would you want to play behind the offensive line that the Chiefs had this past season?
I'll lacerate my spleen right now for $19M.

6 week recovery, $3,166,666 per week? Yes please.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:18 PM   #93
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That has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation, dope.


As for the data, their rating is about the same so they were probably about the same in terms of value.
No dumbass. I explained this already.

Relative to the rest of the league Trent was a top 10 QB. Alex was bottom 10. Trent's offense carried the team. Alex benefitted from a defense that carried the team. Their value is/was not the same.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:18 PM   #94
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Heh. Thought of that one the other day. Fans were flaming him pretty good his first couple of years.
I only remember that happening mainly in his first season. 24 INTs and 17 TDs, if memory serves. Of course, that was before Willie Roaf was on the team and his WRs were Snoop Minnis and ??? At least until they signed Kennison late in 2001.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:19 PM   #95
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I'll lacerate my spleen right now for $19M.

6 week recovery, $3,166,666 per week? Yes please.
so perhaps, all this is from you is bitter bitch jealousy.. that your life is shit while Alex has been swimming in millions since age 20... hmmm...
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I would probably take Trent Green out of the booth today over Alex Smith.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:21 PM   #97
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so perhaps, all this is from you is bitter bitch jealousy.. that your life is shit while Alex has been swimming in millions since age 20... hmmm...
My life is fine. I just don't make as much money as Alex and I would gladly switch places with him right now. Are you saying you wouldn't? Wait... that's a dumb question, you two switch places every 30 seconds.
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In today's environment, or that one? In the 2002 environment, I strongly doubt that.

In today's environment, Jamaal Charles probably runs for 1800-2000 yards and Knile Davis adds 500-600. I'd suspect most of the TD production would go there.

Alex would have a lot more opportunities to take deep shots after play-action, though...



Sounds pretty much correct to me.
That offense is a wet dream for Alex. I bet Priest Holmes would have 15 receiving TD's on passes to the flat, Tony would have 12 TD's with most of them being in the redzone and other players like Richardson and Dunn getting a few.

Wouldn't be that bad at all. The guy did have 27 TD's in 16 games last year with an offense nowhere as talented overall as the Vermeil Chiefs.
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I only remember that happening mainly in his first season. 24 INTs and 17 TDs, if memory serves. Of course, that was before Willie Roaf was on the team and his WRs were Snoop Minnis and ??? At least until they signed Kennison late in 2001.
Fans were also stupid.

Trent always took the blame for his INT's, but half of those picks were well timed throws into exactly the window they should have been... but our idiot WR's didn't know where the **** they were supposed to be.

The WR corps from 2001 makes the crew KC is rolling with now look like the 99 rams. Our top WR was hurt most of the season and the rest of our guys were practice squad players we plucked from other teams. OH yeah, and Snoop Minnis.
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No dumbass. I explained this already.

Relative to the rest of the league Trent was a top 10 QB. Alex was bottom 10.
What rating scale are you using to make this assertion, if I may ask? I believe it was settled on around 18th earlier in this thread. That would make him middle of the pack, not bottom 10. Again, I'm not really all that delighted with Alex Smith as the Chiefs QB. But why do people have to make up stuff to prove the point? If you want to say that he doesn't throw down the field and that he sucks in the 2 minute offense I don't think you would get much argument.
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Fans were also stupid.

Trent always took the blame for his INT's, but half of those picks were well timed throws into exactly the window they should have been... but our idiot WR's didn't know where the **** they were supposed to be.

10+ of those INT's were legit because of blown WR routes.
Yup.
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This would actually hurt your cause, wouldn't it? meaning, worse defense = offense has to do more = will have more production

I don't know.. too lazy to see how good or bad your D was back then..

None of it really matters. Thread is as useless as all the vag bleeding about Smith is.. doesn't matter.. Smith will be your QB until he isn't. Not my decision to make or yours.

Going to be a long, redundant offseason of futile whining...
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I only remember that happening mainly in his first season. 24 INTs and 17 TDs, if memory serves. Of course, that was before Willie Roaf was on the team and his WRs were Snoop Minnis and ??? At least until they signed Kennison late in 2001.
If I remember right it wasn't 'fans' so much as it was Jason Whitlock, then a radio personality in town in addition to his work at the Star, who was as I recall upset that they didn't sign Jeff George and started calling him trINT at the earliest opportunity. There were a few followers of Whitlock here using the moniker, but I think most people understood the receiver situation (it was snoop minnis and chris thomas back in 2001, Kennison was a waiver wire pickup late in the season...).

At least that's how I think it was. Over a decade ago so the years may be fuzzing together.
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What rating scale are you using to make this assertion, if I may ask? I believe it was settled on around 18th earlier in this thread. That would make him middle of the pack, not bottom 10. Again, I'm not really all that delighted with Alex Smith as the Chiefs QB. But why do people have to make up stuff to prove the point? If you want to say that he doesn't throw down the field and that he sucks in the 2 minute offense I don't think you would get much argument.
I'm not using a scale, and I didn't actually rate QBs. I'm just talking out of my ass to make a point.
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