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Old 12-30-2014, 11:06 AM  
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Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs
stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:04 PM   #541
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Put Luck on the Chiefs and we are aiming at our 2nd superbowl title.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:23 PM   #542
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Marshawn Lynch?

He's worth no more than 0.25 wins to Seattle, tops. If that.
You couldn't be more wrong. Actually, your views on Rodgers and Luck are also horrendous.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:27 PM   #543
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A few months ago you "doubted" that the Chiefs would miss the playoffs.
A few months ago, Eric Berry wasn't diagnosed with cancer.

If you don't think that the Chiefs locker room was stunned emotionally, then you don't understand a thing about a football team.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:29 PM   #544
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Luck has been hot garbage for a month now.
It's still early in his brief career, but Luck has been more Philip Rivers than Tom Brady.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:30 PM   #545
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That's ridiculous.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Ahmad Bradshaw was a more than competent RB this year for the Colts. They tried to go to a no huddle shotgun offense a quarter of the way through the season which proved to be ineffective since Andrew turns the ball over at a Mark Sanchez clip.

You can't compare the two teams because they run different offenses.

Andrew Luck >>> Alex Smith

Everyone knows that.

Andrew Luck is right smack dab in the Eli / Rivers tier. That's really good, that's not elite.

and people who think he's elite right now are grossly misinformed
The difference is that you watch every or nearly every Colts game and Clay just looks at highlights and stats.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:35 PM   #546
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If you put 2014 Andrew Luck on this Chiefs team it's 14-2.
Not from my perspective. Maybe 11-5.

These receivers just stink. The ball hits them right in their hands and they consistently drop it. Short passes, intermediate passes, long passes. Kelce, Fasano, Avery, Hemingway, Bowe and Avant.

Awful.

And someone needs to challenge Kelce in the offseason to grow up and become a man. His stupid celebrations have cost the Chiefs time and again. He's more interested in hot dogging than completing the catch and preparing for the next play.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:35 PM   #547
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The difference is that you watch every or nearly every Colts game and Clay just looks at highlights and stats.


I watch college and pro football all day every weekend.

We don't even really disagree, Hootie is just being Hootie and arguing for no reason.
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To say Andrew Luck isn't special, or markedly separated from guys like Alex Smith, is just plain ignorant.

Only 8 guys in NFL history have ever thrown 40 TD passes in a year, and 6 of them are headed to the HOF.
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To say Andrew Luck isn't special, or markedly separated from guys like Alex Smith, is just plain ignorant.

Only 8 guys in NFL history have ever thrown 40 TD passes in a year, and 6 of them are headed to the HOF.
It's really kind of silly to debate his career after 50 games when the guy will likely play in more than 200 before his career ends.

Andrew Luck is absolutely a special quarterback.
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I watch college and pro football all day every weekend.
When did you start watching college football regularly? I seem to remember a point in time when you were just strictly watching the NFL.

Get as much time in as you can now. Once you have kids, you'll be lucky to watch your favorite NFL team on Sundays.
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To say Andrew Luck isn't special, or markedly separated from guys like Alex Smith, is just plain ignorant.

Only 8 guys in NFL history have ever thrown 40 TD passes in a year, and 6 of them are headed to the HOF.
People aren't saying he isn't special, the message is more he isn't the Pope and isn't entitled to excuses that are forbidden other quarterbacks.
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People aren't saying he isn't special, the message is more he isn't the Pope and isn't entitled to excuses that are forbidden other quarterbacks.
He doesn't need any excuses. He wins.
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When did you start watching college football regularly? I seem to remember a point in time when you were just strictly watching the NFL.

Get as much time in as you can now. Once you have kids, you'll be lucky to watch your favorite NFL team on Sundays.
Four years ago. Why do you think I fell in love with Geno?

PS - never having children. In fact, I can't wait for the release of VasaGel.
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