Chiefs Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs - Page 36

cmh6476 · 12-30-2014, 11:06 AM

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2014, 02:36 PM

Comparing Luck to Dalton is not helping your case. That's extreme hyperbole.

Brock · 12-31-2014, 02:37 PM

Lynch is much more easily replaced than wilson is, but jag? Hmm. The guy does some pretty spectacular things sometimes.

Hootie · 12-31-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Lynch is much more easily replaced than wilson is, but jag? Hmm. The guy does some pretty spectacular things sometimes.

He's a good power back in a system that is designed for him to excel.

I see no reason why, once he 86'd after the year, Michael/Turbin won't take over with almost no regression whatsoever.

I hate talking about WAR in football ... but RB's are just a dime a dozen position.

Denver anointed Bell as their starter, and he was truly terrible. Then Hillman, their 2nd string took over, and he was great. And then he hurt himself, and the 3rd string guy was the best of the bunch.

Jamaal Charles is an elite RB because he has elite speed and he can be an elite WR out of the backfield.

Marshawn Lynch?

He's worth no more than 0.25 wins to Seattle, tops. If that.

TheUte · 12-31-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Lynch is incredibly overrated. He's an asshole with a cool nickname.

I don't know about the overrated part. That offense seems very different when he isn't on the field. I'm not a fan at all, but it sure seems like RW's job is a lot easier when he is on the field.

Hootie · 12-31-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Comparing Luck to Dalton is not helping your case. That's extreme hyperbole.

Why?

Because Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect since John Elway?

Luck has been better than Dalton thus far. But the gap between Andy Dalton and Andrew Luck is FAR, FAR, FAR closer than the gap from Andrew Luck to Tom Brady ... and people want to try and act like Luck is already in that elite tier of QB's.

He isn't even close.

Hootie · 12-31-2014, 02:43 PM

so is everyone going to be super amazed next year when Christine Michael takes the NFL by storm!? And he's suddenly an elite RB?!

No coincidence, eh?

Hootie · 12-31-2014, 02:46 PM

Andrew Luck is 1-2 in the postseason, has 2 horrendous performances in losses.

He did play well against KC, we all saw that ... you know, after his 3 picks dug them into a 38-10 hole.

but if you want to give Andrew Luck all the credit for the Chiefs epic collapse, then so be it. I saw it differently. I saw Reid shit all over himself while playing prevent defense PRAYING the game would just end ... instead, of, you know ... sticking to his successful game plan.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2014, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Why?

Because Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect since John Elway?

Luck has been better than Dalton thus far. But the gap between Andy Dalton and Andrew Luck is FAR, FAR, FAR closer than the gap from Andrew Luck to Tom Brady ... and people want to try and act like Luck is already in that elite tier of QB's.

He isn't even close.

Andy Dalton has a far, far superior defense, OL, and running game to anything that Luck has had, not to mention one of the three best receivers in football.

In spite of all of that, he lost to TJ ****ing Yates and the 8-8 Chargers in the playoffs.

I liked Andy Dalton as a sleeper QB coming out, but he is ****ing awful.

Hootie · 12-31-2014, 02:58 PM

Luck plays in a division with Houston, Jacksonville and Tennessee and has two terrible performances in playoff losses to Baltimore and New England.

He's got a home game against Andy Dalton. Looking forward to this one.

Hootie · 12-31-2014, 02:59 PM

Switch the Colts and the Chiefs and do the Chiefs have two straight division titles with Alex Smith?

rabblerouser · 12-31-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Andrew Luck is 1-2 in the postseason, has 2 horrendous performances in losses.

He did play well against KC, we all saw that ... you know, after his 3 picks dug them into a 38-10 hole.

but if you want to give Andrew Luck all the credit for the Chiefs epic collapse, then so be it. I saw it differently. I saw Reid shit all over himself while playing prevent defense PRAYING the game would just end ... instead, of, you know ... sticking to his successful game plan.

Couple that horrendous game management with the officials giving a clearly out of bounds ball to Indy, no - calls on defensive PIs, etc., and you had a perfect storm for Luck to come back in.

The announcers even talked about it before the game : "Andrew Luck has more 4th qtr comebacks than any QB in their first 2 years. Will we see 4th qtr fireworks from Luck & Co. tonight? ? Wild card playoff, KC at Indy Coming up NEXT'

cmh6476 · 12-31-2014, 03:32 PM

So have we figured out if Alex can show progression just as Trent did past his 30s?

Hammock Parties · 12-31-2014, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

So have we figured out if Alex can show progression just as Trent did past his 30s?

He regressed.

cmh6476 · 12-31-2014, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Losses

He regressed.

2003, 2004, and 2005 seemed to be Trent's best years.

Hammock Parties · 12-31-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

2003, 2004, and 2005 seemed to be Trent's best years.

For sure.

I'm talking about Alex.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Andrew Luck is 1-2 in the postseason, has 2 horrendous performances in losses. He did play well against KC, we all saw that ... you know, after his 3 picks dug them into a 38-10 hole. but if you want to give Andrew Luck all the credit for the Chiefs epic collapse, then so be it. I saw it differently. I saw Reid shit all over himself while playing prevent defense PRAYING the game would just end ... instead, of, you know ... sticking to his successful game plan.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Luck plays in a division with Houston, Jacksonville and Tennessee and has two terrible performances in playoff losses to Baltimore and New England. He's got a home game against Andy Dalton. Looking forward to this one.
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