Pats Cheating Comfirmed

[PizzaDoughz]

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Here's the full link:

Listen to those accents!

[Sully]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

They've intentionally not been releasing information until their investigation is complete. You're going to try to use their caution in releasing facts against them?

Even if it were right after the game, I'm supposed to expect a group of guys to remember 11 random numbers? I mean, yeah, they can tell me a general, "All the balls were within the legal range." But if they can't specifically tell me their pressure, I think that undercuts the case quite a bit.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

My God am I sick of hearing about this shit, I'm not even a Pats fan but its reached the level of hysterics.

It really has.

I believed this was a 2-day story after it initially came out. I was waaaay wrong.

[keg in kc]

The YouTube link for that is NeJewzDo

I thought they were all cat-o-holics up there.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

The YouTube link for that is NeJewzDo

I thought they were all cat-o-holics up there.

The ending of it is:

......feuNeJewzDo

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by morphius

It isn't the QB's or the teams job to make sure they are legal. Brady could easily let some air out of the balls without a gauge, feel it in his hand and give a thumbs up. There is one person responsible for making sure the ball is legal, and that is the ref that checks it. If he failed to do his job properly the system falls apart. There was a reason the rule was written to have the refs check them.

It's your job to drive the speed limit. It's the Cop's job to make sure you do.

[Wildcat2005]

Originally Posted by Sully

Even if it were right after the game, I'm supposed to expect a group of guys to remember 11 random numbers? I mean, yeah, they can tell me a general, "All the balls were within the legal range." But if they can't specifically tell me their pressure, I think that undercuts the case quite a bit.

Why?
They measure each ball and see if it is in the acceptable range
I think between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI
If it is then they mark it
Each ball that is used has been marked to signify ref approval

Mike Pereria said for playoff games one of the head refs checks each ball to ensure they are legal

There is no reason to think the refs did not check each football
No reason to think each football left that room in anything other than the correct pressure

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Wildcat2005

Why?
They measure each ball and see if it is in the acceptable range
I think between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI
If it is then they mark it
Each ball that is used has been marked to signify ref approval

Mike Pereria said for playoff games one of the head refs checks each ball to ensure they are legal

There is no reason to think the refs did not check each football
No reason to think each football left that room in anything other than the correct pressure

Good point. I believe they mark the ball to show it had been checked as well, correct?

[morphius]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It's your job to drive the speed limit. It's the Cop's job to make sure you do.

Cop analogy doesn't work here. It is Brady's job to make the ball comfortable, it is the refs job to make sure that it meets all technical specifications.

I can assume everyone with your opinion will also call Rodgers a cheater for the rest of his career because the refs let air out of balls because he liked to have a bit more air in them?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by morphius

Cop analogy doesn't work here. It is Brady's job to make the ball comfortable, it is the refs job to make sure that it meets all technical specifications.

I can assume everyone with your opinion will also call Rodgers a cheater for the rest of his career because the refs let air out of balls because he liked to have a bit more air in them?

Does Rodgers have his ball boy go in after they've been approved and pump air into them?

[morphius]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Does Rodgers have his ball boy go in after they've been approved and pump air into them?

Have you proved that has happened yet?

[ODESSABRONC]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Nope. Fivehead wanted the rule change as well and he STILL chokes in the playoffs even while deflating the game balls.

For a dope that runs his mouth a lot you don't have proof that Manning has ever tampered with a football do you?

[Katipan]

It's Brady's job to make the football comfortable?

Good lord.

There are millions of cars out there driving around that don't fit all sorts of laws. Whether theres a broken tail light, bad emissions, invalid registration. These cars can have their own damn parade in front of a cop shop and until they see the tail light, or smell the exhaust, or run the plates, there isn't a problem.

Of course, these people don't drive in front of the cop shop, because they know they would get in trouble.

Successful completions, and the occasional scramble are Brady's job.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by morphius

Have you proved that has happened yet?

11 out of the 12 balls were deflated. How exactly do you think that happened?

[morphius]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

11 out of the 12 balls were deflated. How exactly do you think that happened?

I can easily see a case where a guy that can't see Hali getting a choke hold five feet in front of him, while staring at him, could just as easily miss the fact that the balls were under inflated with a squeeze test.