Donaldson>Moustakas

[bricks]

And it's not even close.

Last night I was watching Hockey Night In Canada with Don Cherry and Ron Maclean; Don Cherry expressed a valid point in that there is an injustice going on with respect to selecting all-stars.

He pointed out that Moustakas is in the lead because it's the people in Kansas City that are giving him a gazillion votes, meanwhile, Donaldson is top 10 in the majors in RBIs, HRs, doubles, runs scored and in slugging percentage.

Fielding wise, Moustakas couldn't hold Donaldsons jock. Now is this deserving that Moustakas deserves to be ahead of Donaldson in voting when Donaldson outclasses him defensively and in a helluva lot of statistical categories.

Guys, you know this system is ****ing bullsh*t okay? Donaldson is the better player and deserves to be in there over Moustakas. You guys are voting him in there because he is your boy. This voting system on choosing all-stars is a reflection of extreme biases and favoritism. The people of Kansas City blew that out of proportion. It's just so unfair.

*Go ahead and flame away. I'm confident my point stands strong

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Prince Fielder is classified as a 1B in the All-Star voting, so that's a moot point.

The ONLY DH that is having a better season in the AL than Morales is Cruz. But they will both be there with Morales winning the vote and Cruz getting the selection. If so many people are so upset by Cruz not starting over Morales, then perhaps they should take matters into their own hands, get on-line and vote more?

I'm fairly certain the fanbases for 14 other AL clubs could unite and 'outvote' the Royals fanbase if they really wanted to. But it would seem they don't care enough to do just that, being as we are where we are.

It's more fun to sit around and bitch about it on-line and curse the system that allowed it to happen.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Oh my god the vaginas in this thread.

[bricks]

Okay I'll admit, I've been a bit arrogant with respect to saying that Donaldson is better than Moustakas defensively. Statistically, they're actually pretty similar.

But there are certain things you can't put a stat on when evaluating players defensively. Like for example, who is the better athlete? Who has better mobility to move around from side to side and can cover more range around the corners and in between the bases? Who has greater leaping ability? Who can transition the ball better from glove to throwing hand? Who has better hip movement? Who is better at anticipation and timing plays or reacting where the ball is going to be or go?

You can't put stats on these things. But I'll just say this, Donaldson wasn't a natural third basemen. Remember, he was drafted as a catcher. Had he started as a natural at third base, he'd probably be more ahead defensively today.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by bricks

Okay I'll admit, I've been a bit arrogant with respect to saying that Donaldson is better than Moustakas defensively. Statistically, they're actually pretty similar.

But there are certain things you can't put a stat on when evaluating players defensively. Like for example, who is the better athlete? Who has better mobility to move around from side to side and can cover more range around the corners and in between the bases? Who has greater leaping ability? Who can transition the ball better from glove to throwing hand? Who has better hip movement? Who is better at anticipation and timing plays or reacting where the ball is going to be or go?

You can put stats on these things. But I'll just say this, Donaldson wasn't a natural third basemen. Remember, he was drafted as a catcher. Had he started as a natural at third base, he'd probably be more ahead defensively today.

The hip movement thing was pretty funny.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Both Donaldson and Moose will be at the All-Star game regardless. They are the two best All-around 3B in the AL this year. Both deserve it.

Yes, Donaldson is having a better year statistically and 'deserves' to start over Moose, but that is not how the starters are determined. It is a fan vote. They determine the starters. And apparently the fans want to see Moose starting?

If that's not the case, I suggest all of Donaldson's fans (and anyone else, for that matter) get busy and start voting for him.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Both Donaldson and Moose will be at the All-Star game regardless. They are the two best All-around 3B in the AL this year. Both deserve it.

Yes, Donaldson is having a better year statistically and 'deserves' to start over Moose, but that is not how the starters are determined. It is a fan vote. They determine the starters. And apparently the fans want to see Moose starting?

If that's not the case, I suggest all of Donaldson's fans (and anyone else, for that matter) get busy and start voting for him.

I'm going to be putting in lots and lots of votes for him.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

The hip movement thing was pretty funny.

Who takes it up the a** better Donaldson or Moustakas? Probably Donaldson.

[C3HIEF3S]

I'm just happy Moose doesn't suck anymore.
You guys can keep arguing, while I celebrate the true victory. Could you imagine having Omar and last year's Moose in our lineup as it is right now?
See everyone else in the ASG after the Royals inning is over.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

What will be interesting is seeing the Royals play the NL allstars and seeing if we will win.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

What will be interesting is seeing the Royals play the NL allstars and seeing if we will win.

Its nice to be in the Lebron situation where you cant lose. Win and the Royals single handily beat the NL All Stars, lose and its well its one team losing to the best the other entire league has to offer.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Since Hamas and others seem to think ARoid and Bautista are 'significantly better' then Morales this year, here's the numbers:

1. Bautista - 57 games, 11 HR, 38 RBI, .246 avg, .871 OPS

2. ARoid - 59 games, 12 HR, 32 RBI, .268 avg, .873 OPS

3. Morales- 59 games, 7 HR, 41 RBI, .281 avg, .809 OPS


So now everyone is aware just how much 'better' Bautista and ARoid are than Morales.

Morales also has more hits, more doubles, and fewer strikeouts than both. He has more total bases than Bautista and about the same total bases as Rodriguez (4 fewer bases in 5 fewer plate appearances).

So basically, Bautista and Rodriguez have a few more homers and more walks, therefore Morales doesn't deserve to "sniff" the All-Star Game.

[PunkinDrublic]

The only reason Canada exists as a country is because none of your lands were deemed worthy of statehood. Plus you still suck up to the queen. Way to show a little backbone.

A Canadians opinion on baseball is in the top 10 on my who gives a shit list.

[alnorth]

Donaldson>Moustakas

Yep, sure is. Tough shit.

Every year several players start ahead of more deserving players, and people have always laughed it off as just one of those things at the all-star game. No one really gave a damn until it was KC getting too many starters.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Yep, sure is. Tough shit.

Every year several players start ahead of more deserving players, and people have always laughed it off as just one of those things at the all-star game. No one really gave a damn until it was KC getting too many starters.

This, so much THIS

[loochy]

BWAHAHAHAHA

wah wah my favorite players won't make the all star team

Well guess what? Mine will...so suckit!

Haha this whole situation makes me lol a couple of times a day. All of the whining and the stupid system where one is allowed to vote 35 times per email address is just insanely ridiculous. Bwahahahaha.