Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18

[Discuss Thrower]

Clayton on show seems to hint that SEA would be open to non-exclusive Tag for RW in 2016- seems surprising but SEA will study all avenues

— DAVIS HSU (@DavisHsuSeattle) June 20, 2015

Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

Pole cumming.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I really don't get the game manager label for Wilson. He MAKES plays.

Then you haven't watched Wilson play 16 games in a season

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Well, worse than that, if Wilson does what is expected, right. Hopefully (for you guys) 20 and 32.

and that's what I'm saying ...

trade Wilson to a contender for 2 1sts and it's not like you're going to be getting 2 top 5 picks back in return

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then you haven't watched Wilson play 16 games in a season

ok mr. busy bear

try and tell me you watched more Russell Wilson than me last year

please, I'd love it

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wilson is 26 and will be 27 in November

man!

he's close to entering his prime!

we better not trade 2 entire 1st rounders for that guy! In a decade, he'd be ... 36!

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'd give our next 3 1st round picks for Wilson right now.

Is that even legal? Or is there like an NBA rule built in where you can't trade picks that far into the future?

Hypothetically, I'd give our next two DRAFTS for Russell Wilson.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Oh this will be good

you're implying the Packers are a model franchise because they draft so well, yes?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

ok mr. busy bear

try and tell me you watched more Russell Wilson than me last year

please, I'd love it

I have Seattle on every Sunday afternoon as my primary game but switch around occasionally to the Red Zone channel. I've been a fan since Pete was hired.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

man!

he's close to entering his prime!

we better not trade 2 entire 1st rounders for that guy! In a decade, he'd be ... 36!

I only posted his correct age and made no further comments, so I don't understand what's so funny.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'd give our next two 1sts for 2 years of Tom freaking Brady in a heartbeat. Heartbeat.

Let alone Russell Wilson, who is 25.

Right, agreed that it's more of a no-brainer for Wilson.

It's a no-brainer for Brady if you think you're on the cusp and he puts you over the top. 2 1sts for a guy whose game might decline and who could be retired in 3 years wouldn't necessarily make sense otherwise.

I will say this -- Brady could break all the rules when it comes to QB longevity. We'll see, but he's described as a complete psychopath when it comes to eating/working out etc., and we know that running isn't part of his game.

He will be 38 this upcoming season. Five years from now he'd be 43, and it's impossible to imagine a QB playing at a high level at that age but nobody has won much money betting against Brady these last 15 years.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Hypothetically, I'd give our next two DRAFTS for Russell Wilson.

The mods should change your name to Hyperbole 2.0.

Good grief.

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I really don't get the game manager label for Wilson. He MAKES plays. That vaunted defense let Wilson down against the Falcons in the postseason after he took the lead with under a minute remaining. That vaunted defense let Brady shred them in the 4th quarter last year.

How in the world someone wouldn't want Wilson to lead their team, especially a team like KC who hasn't won a playoff game in 20 years, is beyond me.

Cherry picking Wilson's best playoff game is kind of silly.

Once again, Wilson is 100% reliant on his defense to win games. If their D doesn't completely shut down their opponent, the Seahawks don't win.

In Seahawk wins, opponents score an average of 11.8 points per game.

In Seahawk losses, opponents score an average of 24.6 points per game.

Like I stated above, if the Seahawks don't completely shut down their opponents offense, they don't win the game.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

you're implying the Packers are a model franchise because they draft so well, yes?

Absolutely

[dls6501]

And for the record, I am not implying that Russell Wilson is not better than Alex Smith. He is. And he will probably improve. But currently, he is much less than people make him out to be.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Absolutely

there drafts are LITERALLY no better than the Chiefs drafts since Aaron Rodgers ...

I used to point this out to Mecca, Dane and 'Hamas all of the time back in the drafturbator era.

They literally have as many misses as anybody. Difference is, they have Aaron Rodgers.

You can keep pretending Seattle wins because of their defense and Marshawn Lynch ... but how many games was Marshawn Lynch winning Buffalo? How many games did Larry Johnson win us?

This website has LITERALLY spent the last 9 years of my life (join date 2006) BEGGING for a QB because, AND IT'S TRUE, if you want to consistently win your division and put yourself in the position to be a champion, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FRANCHISE QB. Plain and simple.

...and now suddenly Seattle wins despite their QB. Maybe not even despite, but they win because they have a great defense and a really good RB.

So apparently, Schottenheimer was right. No?

It is so ****ing ridiculous to discredit Russell Wilson and not recognize how amazing he has been and how he has LED his team to a Super Bowl title, a Super Bowl runner up, and another playoff win + two LEGENDARY performances in losses. 6-2. Three years in.

THE CHIEFS HAVEN'T WON A ****ING PLAYOFF GAME SINCE I WAS 8 (1993).

...

AND MORE PEOPLE ON THIS WEBSITE WOULD RATHER HAVE TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS THAN RUSSELL WILSON.

omg

You just ... can't ... be ...

my head might explode

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by dls6501

And for the record, I am not implying that Russell Wilson is not better than Alex Smith. He is. And he will probably improve. But currently, he is much less than people make him out to be.

...and you're a Chiefs fan, who has not seen a playoff win since 1993


...and you'd rather hang on to two Glenn Dorsey's than "take a chance" on a 26 year old Super Bowl CHAMPION with a 6-2 playoff record

because MAYBE he isn't Tom Brady

You've sold me.

I wouldn't give Donald Stephenson straight up for Russell. Stephenson was drafted before him, after all. I don't think it's fair.