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Old 07-26-2015, 05:23 PM  
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FIAT/Chrysler to buy back 500,000 RAM trucks
Fiat Chrysler to buy back 500,000 Ram pickups; biggest such action in US history
By TOM KRISHER Associated Press JULY 26, 2015 — 6:18PM


DETROIT — Fiat Chrysler will buy back from customers more than 500,000 Ram pickup trucks in the biggest such action in U.S. history as part of a costly deal with U.S. safety regulators to settle legal problems in about two-dozen recalls.

The trucks, which are the company's top-selling vehicle, have defective steering parts that can cause drivers to lose control, and some previous repairs have been unsuccessful. So to get them off the roads, Fiat Chrysler agreed to the buyback, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Owners also have the option of getting them repaired, the agency said in documents released Sunday.

Also, owners of more than a million older Jeeps with vulnerable rear-mounted gas tanks will be able to trade in their vehicles for more than market value or be paid to get them repaired, the agency said in a statement. The Jeeps' fuel tanks are behind the rear axle and have little to shield them in a rear crash. They can rupture and spill gasoline, setting the vehicles on fire. At least 75 people have died in crash-related fires, although Fiat Chrysler maintains they are as safe as comparable vehicles from the same era.

Both the Jeep and Ram measures are part of a larger settlement between the government and the automaker that includes a record $105 million fine and the appointment of an independent recall monitor.

"Today's action holds Fiat Chrysler accountable for its past failures, pushes them to get unsafe vehicles repaired or off the roads and takes concrete steps to keep Americans safer going forward," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in the statement. The record civil fine, he said, puts automakers on notice that NHTSA will take action when recall laws aren't followed.

NHTSA has been involved in vehicle buybacks in the past, but never with this many vehicles. A buyback usually happens when a problem is so serious that it can't be fixed and the vehicles need to be removed from service. The buyback and the Jeep trade-ins likely will cost Fiat Chrysler hundreds of millions of dollars or more.

The agency's actions come less than a month after it held a rare public hearing to detail problems with 23 Fiat Chrysler recalls covering more than 11 million cars and trucks. It's another sign that NHTSA is taking a much tougher stance against automakers that don't obey auto safety laws.

The fine beats the old record of $70 million assessed against Honda Motor Co. for lapses in recalls of air bags made by Takata Corp.

At the July 2 hearing, NHTSA detailed a litany of shortfalls: failure to notify customers of recalls, delays in making and distributing repair parts and in some cases failing to come up with repairs that fix the problems. Some of the recalls date to 2013.

During the hearing, Fiat Chrysler did not dispute any of NHTSA's allegations. Scott Kunselman, the company's head of vehicle safety, said it is changing the way it manages safety to follow the industry's best practices. The safety system, he said, has been reorganized with added personnel. He now reports directly to CEO Sergio Marchionne. Previously the person in his position was three rungs down the organization chart from the chief executive, he said.

"We have learned from our mistakes and missteps," he said.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:41 PM   #61
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Growing up I never thought I would favor Ford among the domestic makes, but nowadays you either buy from Government Motors, you buy from FIAT, or you can buy from Ford who didn't take a bailout and can actually make money on their own.
That's because ford just tells their customers to **** off when there are issues in shit.


60-100k and motors just shell even when being serviced on the maintenance schedule at dealerships? Something is ****ing wrong, but do they help people out at that point? **** no.

I've replaced over 50 5.4 3v's they are shit.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:43 PM   #62
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That was it man.
I'll tell you that I know from experience that it's ****ing crazy.


Absolutely love it when a customer brings their rig in for something else and never mention that they have the wobble.


Test drive and it just goes crazy randomly. So bad it wobble all the way to a ****ing stop, and starts in around 40-70. Just random.


It can be pretty ****ing scary
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:24 PM   #63
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I bolted up to around 90+ on my commute the other morning because two douches doing 70 in the middle lanes with their jacked up trucks had no mud flaps and I had to get around them quick because of it. I spot that shit from miles away and avoid at all costs.

AND **** YOU!
Rock chips on prius's paint jobs must be a bitch to get fixed.

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Old 07-27-2015, 06:27 PM   #64
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Rock chips on prius's paint jobs must be a bitch to get fixed.

Again. Sorry broprius.
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:29 PM   #65
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:32 PM   #66
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Tell him you quit driving girls cars months ago...


My wife said something similar the other day!
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:46 PM   #68
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So will the cars be fixed and resold or destroyed?

Just had that thought. Could be a good scam opportunity.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:40 PM   #69
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So will the cars be fixed and resold or destroyed?

Just had that thought. Could be a good scam opportunity.
Mines not on the list. I can keep brodozing on in style.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:00 AM   #70
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So will the cars be fixed and resold or destroyed?

Just had that thought. Could be a good scam opportunity.
I read/heard somewhere that the vehicles they buy back can be repaired and re-sold.
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I'm curious to know what happens if someone is still financing a vehicle that is eligible for buy back?
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THE DEATH WOBBLE!!!
I ****ing hate this. Bushings on my tierod ends and track bar are shot so I shake like hell sometimes.
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