Chiefs Reid/Dorsey safe for 2016.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I used to be against it, but I think there's something to be said about building a winning culture throughout the organization. I think it's more important than draft position and or who you draft where and when.

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

RunKC · 11-03-2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

I've got a big issue with this. Clark shouldn't be saying anyone is "safe" right now.

We are 3-5 in this regime's third year. That is NOT good.

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.

Oh, but we have...

KCTitus · 11-03-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I've got a big issue with this. Clark shouldn't be saying anyone is "safe" right now.

We are 3-5 in this regime's third year. That is NOT good.

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.

I dont expect Clark to say the 'truth' in public statements...I have to assume that Clark is saying 'we can do better than this' in private.

Discuss Thrower · 11-03-2015, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

I dont expect Clark to say the 'truth' in public statements...I have to assume that Clark is saying 'we can do better than this' in private.

Team is on path to get somewhere close to 8-8 and will probably finish the year with like a 6-4 run. The narrative is all but set for "Just a few key additions and some good drafting, and this is easily a team that can go deep in the playoffs."

We're in the middle of rehashing the 2004 season.

Because Chiefs.

KCTitus · 11-03-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Team is on path to get somewhere close to 8-8 and will probably finish the year with like a 6-4 run. The narrative is all but set for "Just a few key additions and some good drafting, and this is easily a team that can go deep in the playoffs."

We're in the middle of rehashing the 2004 season.

Because Chiefs.

Do you know this for a fact or is it your conjecture? I'm cynical, but that's pretty out there.

Discuss Thrower · 11-03-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Do you know this for a fact or is it your conjecture? I'm cynical, but that's pretty out there.

The 2004 Chiefs started pretty terrible and then rattled off a bunch of wins in route to a 7-9 record.

Instead of taking a QB, Vermeil / Carl opted to make a win-now draft pick by getting DJ because the defense was so bad that a rookie could start at MLB.

Yeah, sure, we still have DJ, but they could have had Aaron ****ing Rodgers sitting the bench for at least one season and possibly two. The team drafted for a defensive need because the year prior the team was 7-9 but won more games than they lost to close the year out after the halfway mark. People were scoreboard watching at the end of November hoping enough other outcomes could go KC's way so they could get into the playoffs with an 8-8/9-7 record though they couldn't get the job done in the last two weeks of the season.

The same shit is happening now with people looking at the schedule going "You knowwwwww, the only good team the Chiefs have to play is Denver.. the AFC is pretty shitty this year... 8-8 might actually get you in the playoffs, and the Chiefs can easily go 7-1 to end the year with a 9-7 record..."

Two wins against absolute dumpster fire teams, one win against a one-dimensional team missing the key piece to why that one-dimension to the team is good and five losses -two to actual AFC title contenders and one to an NFC title contender, one loss on the road to a team that is about equal to KC and a HOME loss to a dumpster fire team.

It's almost comical that people are hoping to back into the playoffs by being just slightly less shitty than the rest of a shitty conference if it weren't so ****ing predictable.

KCTitus · 11-03-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The 2004 Chiefs started pretty terrible and then rattled off a bunch of wins in route to a 7-9 record....

Im sorry, I'm not going to bother reading all that. Did you answer my question about whether or not your version of the 'narrative' was your conjecture or not? I tend to think it is.

O.city · 11-03-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

The same team as the bears debacle would have gotten beat traveling to London by the Lions.

Whether it's shitty opponents or not, the team is currently playing better than they were a month ago.

The line, qb, play calling etc, is problematic but also a function of each other.

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.

Andy called pretty much the same game vs the Lions he did the rest of the season. The difference was almost everything worked. It was just one of those days.

When we face a real D like Denver it's all going to look like $#it again and we'll be wondering what he did differently. In reality, nothing was any different...

O.city · 11-03-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Andy called pretty much the same game vs the Lions he did the rest of the season. The difference was almost everything worked. It was just one of those days.

When we face a real D like Denver it's all going to look like $#it again and we'll be wondering what he did differently. In reality, nothing was any different...

I'm shocked that when we face a defense playing at an all time great level, everything doesn't "work".

Sometimes I think in reality, some people are just morons.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'm shocked that when we face a defense playing at an all time great level, everything doesn't "work".

Sometimes I think in reality, some people are just morons.

This all or nothing attitude is simplistic and idiotic.

There's a huge difference between not being able to score on a great D and your whole offense looking like total dog$#it.

It doesn't require a great D for us to look lost on the field.

But for the half-full people we don't face a legit D for the rest of the year after Denver...

RunKC · 11-03-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The same team as the bears debacle would have gotten beat traveling to London by the Lions.

Whether it's shitty opponents or not, the team is currently playing better than they were a month ago.

The line, qb, play calling etc, is problematic but also a function of each other.

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.