Chiefs Reid/Dorsey safe for 2016. - Page 10

Al Bundy · 11-01-2015, 08:10 AM

#Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt says he will stick with Andy Reid and John Dorsey for 2016, even if they end up with a top 5, top 10 pick.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) November 1, 2015

**The Franchise** · 11-03-2015, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Playing for draft position hasn't helped in the past anyway. This draft qb wise is gonna be about the scouting direction and which one best fits what you're looking for anyway (thanks DJ) so theres no point in tanking.

They need to be trying to get Berry and the NT playing well whose name escapes me right now signed and see what Sean Smith is gonna look for, likely more than I'd pay, but I'd be interested in knowing.

Jaye Howard. Dude needs a contract right now.

**RealSNR** · 11-03-2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Clarks comments this week don't sound promising. He's spinning this as if we are turning this ship around because we've won a few pretty meaningless games. And it sounds like we're keeping guys like Sean Smith around to make a desperate run even though we know Smith won't be back next year.

This is on Clark. Reid is going to absorb power until somebody stops him.

kcchiefs.com is littered with celebratory videos the past two weeks. They think the team is back on track and ready to go on a huge upswing.

Again, I'm fine with that type of thinking, but that would mean the team probably shouldn't have shit the bed against the goddamn Bears and Vikings. Because they did, instead of making a playoff push like they could be, they're going to be making a push for 8-8 and embarrassment.

And once again, no first round QB will be available.

RunKC · 11-03-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

kcchiefs.com is littered with celebratory videos the past two weeks. They think the team is back on track and ready to go on a huge upswing.

Again, I'm fine with that type of thinking, but that would mean the team probably shouldn't have shit the bed against the goddamn Bears and Vikings. Because they did, instead of making a playoff push like they could be, they're going to be making a push for 8-8 and embarrassment.

And once again, no first round QB will be available.

That's their job. They get paid to polish a turd. Can't really blame team employees for that.

O.city · 11-03-2015, 01:30 PM

I used to be against it, but I think there's something to be said about building a winning culture throughout the organization. I think it's more important than draft position and or who you draft where and when.

So if they wanna push it in and try and win out this year, fine, do it.

More than anything they need to establish the culture thag losing isn't ok.

RunKC · 11-03-2015, 01:40 PM

We need a QB so badly. The talent on this team is young and it stacks up with most teams in the NFL.

I think overall Dorsey has done a nice job with the hand he's been dealt, but a QB is the missing piece to consistent success.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-03-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That's their job. They get paid to polish a turd. Can't really blame team employees for that.

You can when you start doing that at the expense of looking out for the teams long term interests. I never back tanking. But the chiefs should be shopping their expensive veterans right now for draft picks. I'll be pissed if I find out we missed an opportunity to do that to save us a few wins, especially for players like Sean Smith who we know won't be here next year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We need a QB so badly. The talent on this team is young and it stacks up with most teams in the NFL.

I think overall Dorsey has done a nice job with the hand he's been dealt, but a QB is the missing piece to consistent success.

Regardless of whether the Chiefs pick #1 or #32, I don't think there's any way that they can pass on a talented QB in the first round.

Point of selection is absolutely no guarantee of success, so as long as they choose a guy that they feel can be a long term starting QB, I'm fine with it.

In the mean time, I want them to win as many games as possible.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You can when you start doing that at the expense of looking out for the teams long term interests. I never back tanking. But the chiefs should be shopping their expensive veterans right now for draft picks. I'll be pissed if I find out we missed an opportunity to do that to save us a few wins, especially for players like Sean Smith who we know won't be here next year.

O.city · 11-03-2015, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Regardless of whether the Chiefs pick #1 or #32, I don't think there's any way that they can pass on a talented QB in the first round.

Point of selection is absolutely no guarantee of success, so as long as they choose a guy that they feel can be a long term starting QB, I'm fine with it.

In the mean time, I want them to win as many games as possible.

Basically, this.

There will never be a better situation for them to take a QB early, than what theyll have next year.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-03-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

We're keeping Sean Smith because he's ****ing talented. Would you rather we trade him for pennies and start Fleming or Cooper?

I don't have a problem with Sean Smith. I like the guy. But if doesn't feel like the chiefs have interest in keeping him past this year. If they don't, then we should get value out of him instead of trying to salvage a few meaningless wins

O.city · 11-03-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't have a problem with Sean Smith. I like the guy. But if doesn't feel like the chiefs have interest in keeping him past this year. If they don't, then we should get value out of him instead of trying to salvage a few meaningless wins

Wins in the NFL are never meaningless.

I know that kind of flies in the face of everyone here, but as we've seen with coaching turnover, winning isn't easy.

Mr. Laz · 11-03-2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Russel Wilson will, in all likely hood, become elite, but I would not put him that category yet.

Tom Brady spent his rookie season on the bench.

Drew Brees spent his rookie season on the bench.

And Cam Newton isn't elite, though like Wilson, he might get there.

Actually for the first time, i think Cam Newton is getting there. I didn't think he would.

Without his stud center Wilson hasn't looked the same, even though he has better weapons.

KCTitus · 11-03-2015, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Regardless of whether the Chiefs pick #1 or #32, I don't think there's any way that they can pass on a talented QB in the first round.

Point of selection is absolutely no guarantee of success, so as long as they choose a guy that they feel can be a long term starting QB, I'm fine with it.

In the mean time, I want them to win as many games as possible.

Yep...excellent.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I used to be against it, but I think there's something to be said about building a winning culture throughout the organization. I think it's more important than draft position and or who you draft where and when.

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

RunKC · 11-03-2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

I've got a big issue with this. Clark shouldn't be saying anyone is "safe" right now.

We are 3-5 in this regime's third year. That is NOT good.

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-705936	I used to be against it, but I think there's something to be said about building a winning culture throughout the organization. I think it's more important than draft position and or who you draft where and when. So if they wanna push it in and try and win out this year, fine, do it. More than anything they need to establish the culture thag losing isn't ok.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1610389	We need a QB so badly. The talent on this team is young and it stacks up with most teams in the NFL. I think overall Dorsey has done a nice job with the hand he's been dealt, but a QB is the missing piece to consistent success. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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