Raider Week

[Rain Man]

Watch this video to see why the Raiders are horrible: http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...9-c89e0b52dcc3

As a child, the Raiders were my first real exposure to cheating and dirty play. Before I started watching Chiefs/Raiders games, I didn't really know about cheating and dirty play other than this kid in first grade who would trash talk me in kickball. His name was Larry and he finally shut up one day when he got hit by a car. The Raiders finally shut up when Big Al went crazy and they stopped getting good football players, which is kind of the NFL equivalent of getting hit by a car.

I don't think this game is meaningless at all, because I really want the #5 seed. But even if was completely meaningless and both teams had no reason to play, I would still want to beat the Raiders 223-0.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by smellypitts

I'll pull this out tomorrow

Please don't.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by smellypitts

I'll pull this out tomorrow

Coooo-perrrrrr!

[Halfcan]

Walter continues to be a Chief hating D-bag!!

Oakland Raiders (7-8) at Kansas City Chiefs (10-5)
Line: Chiefs by 7.5. Total: 43.5.
Las Vegas Hilton Advance Point Spread : Chiefs -7.
Walt's Calculated Line: Chiefs -4.5.
Sunday, Jan 3, 4:25 ET
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The Game. Edge: Chiefs.

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KANSAS CITY OFFENSE: The Chiefs don't really do anything on this side of the ball. Alex Smith occasionally takes a deep shot or two, but the Chiefs run the ball, dink and dunk, or have Smith scramble for first downs. As a consequence, the Chiefs have accumulated an average of 274 net yards per game over the past month. Because that number means nothing out of context, as a barometer, Kansas City has surrendered 343.8 net yards per contest in that span. That's right - they've been outgained by about 70 yards per game despite playing the Raiders, Chargers, Ravens and Browns, who have a combined record of 19-41.

If you couldn't tell, I'm not very crazy about Kansas City's scoring attack, especially in this matchup. The Chiefs need to run the ball to have success, but they may not be able to do that against the Raiders, who have surrendered more than 80 rushing yards just once since Week 10, ranking 10th in the NFL in terms of YPC. Kansas City was able to muster just 66 yards on the ground at Oakland, explaining why it was limited to just 4.8 yards per play.

Without a strong rushing attack, Smith will have to do more with his arm, which is never a promising thing. The Raiders have some issues in their secondary, and their pass rush hasn't been as potent without Aldon Smith, but I don't think the Chiefs will be able to move the chains consistently. Alex Smith will pick up some first downs with his legs, but that's about it.

OAKLAND OFFENSE: The Raiders outgained the Chiefs by 129 net yards in Week 13, but they lost by two touchdowns because Derek Carr murdered his team with a pair of crucial interceptions. Holding a six-point lead, he drove down the field, just outside the red zone, but a careless pick-six of his sparked a Kansas City surge that ultimately culminated in a 34-20 advantage.

I can't say I have more faith in Carr right now, however. It seems like he makes a couple of bone-headed plays each game. He has played well in some instances, though not having a healthy Amari Cooper hurts. Cooper is banged up, so I don't expect Oakland's receivers to have much success against Kansas City's terrific secondary.

If the Raiders move the ball, it'll have to be on the ground. The Chiefs had a top-10 ground defense going into last week's game, but the Browns accumulated 124 rushing yards with their running backs alone. That bodes well for Latavius Murray, who has played well lately.

RECAP: If it wasn't for the Bills, I would've considered this to be my December NFL Pick of the Month. I love the Raiders in this spot.

I've been fading the Chiefs for a while now. I haven't enjoyed much success in terms of pure results, but I've been on the right side of all of their games ever since Week 12. They sputter offensively, yet continue to be favored by too many points. Seven is also too many. As mentioned, the Chiefs produce nothing on offense and have been outgained by a wide margin against pedestrian competition. This team is just not that good, yet continues to be overrated by the clueless media.

I was hoping to be able to bet against the Chiefs in a must-win game, but I still love the Raiders here. They have plenty of motivation - divisional revenge, a goal to get to 8-8 - so I think we'll see their best effort to keep Kansas City from claiming the division.

I'm going with four units. I may increase it to five if I hear glowing reports on Cooper. I just wish we were getting better line value with the Raiders - I thought this spread could approach 10 - but it seems like the books have caught on. They're effectively begging for Kansas City money.

WEDNESDAY NOTES: I was hoping more money would come in on the Chiefs, but it's a 50-50 game overall in terms of wagers. Go Raiders.

FINAL THOUGHTS: What I wrote in the Panthers-Buccaneers game also applies here. The public is betting up Kansas City, while the pros haven't wagered on either side yet. If this keeps moving up, I imagine they'll take the Raiders at +8 or +9.


The Psychology. Edge: TBA.
Depends on the Monday night game.


The Vegas. Edge: None.
Equal action.
Percentage of money on Kansas City: 55% (12,000 bets)


The Trends. Edge: None.
History: Road Team has won 13 of the last 18 meetings.
Jack Del Rio is 8-2 ATS as a divisional underdog of 7+.
Jack Del Rio is 9-5 ATS in same-season divisional revenge games.
Raiders are 11-25 ATS after a win since 2009.
Raiders are 2-9 ATS in Week 17 since 2003.
Jack Del Rio is 1-7 ATS in Week 17 games.
Opening Line: Chiefs -6.5.
Opening Total: 43.5.
Weather: .


Week 17 NFL Pick: Chiefs 20, Raiders 17
Raiders +7.5 (4 Units)
Under 43.5 (0 Units)

[Lightrise]

Anybody ever see that classic clip of Neil Smith going out of his way to step on the hand of a Raider? LOL That just epitomizes my hate for that franchise.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by smellypitts

I'll pull this out tomorrow

To relive/celebrate this:






I will wear this:

(yes, #34!!!!)

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Walter continues to be a Chief hating D-bag!!

It thrills me to see that site picking against the Chiefs, because they're always wrong.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It thrills me to see that site picking against the Chiefs, because they're always wrong.

Yep 9 wins in a row by the Chief and he was wrong on all of them. But loves the Chargers- "who are a few plays from a 3 game winning streak"-

KC is going to start hating him right up there with Joe Buck and Elway.

[Toby Waller]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It thrills me to see that site picking against the Chiefs, because they're always wrong.

which if you think about it,means he's always right

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

Raiders are coming in to play spoiler...and they are a formidable team. Playoffs start now

This and let's hope the Chiefs recognize this.

[baitism]

Any team that plays on a baseball field should be contracted.

[Abraxas]

Originally Posted by milkman

When the Chiefs and Raiders were competing for the Western Conference of the AFL in the 60s, games between them were classic battles between good and evil.

Hate the Raiders, but football is at it's best when the Raiders and Chiefs are battling for division supremacy.

Agreed. Yeah, I hate Denver and SD to a much lesser degree, but god how I hate the Chiefs. And that hate makes for great games.

No doubt that as Chiefs fans you guys are glad to be in the playoffs and wouldn't trade that for a scenario in which tomorrow's game was a must win for you to get to the postseason, but man, it would make for a great game.

Still though, we have a chance to put you on the road right away in the playoffs and after as bad as we've been for all these years, I'll take that.

Here's to bad luck and many injuries.

[Halfcan]

dumb ass ^^^

[Abraxas]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

dumb ass ^^^

And it's clowns like you that will always fuel my hatred of your team that's always about to be great right before it pisses its pants and falls down.

Eight days from now you're going to be screaming that Alex Smith sucks and that Andy Reid needs to be shitcanned. Like usual.

[Halfcan]

dumb ass ^^^

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Abraxas

Agreed. Yeah, I hate Denver and SD to a much lesser degree, but god how I hate the Chiefs. And that hate makes for great games.

No doubt that as Chiefs fans you guys are glad to be in the playoffs and wouldn't trade that for a scenario in which tomorrow's game was a must win for you to get to the postseason, but man, it would make for a great game.

Still though, we have a chance to put you on the road right away in the playoffs and after as bad as we've been for all these years, I'll take that.

Here's to bad luck and many injuries.

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