pitcher Jose Fernandez was killed in a boating accident?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Having a few drinks and a line of cocaine isn't what killed Fernandez and his friends.

They died because whomever was driving was very inexperienced piloting a boat, wasn't familiar with the terrain, while dealing with a pitch black night. It would have happened regardless of whether or not the pilot was drinking or partying.

Also, center console fishing boats don't usually get to a high rate of speed, which points to inexperience. It's not like they were in a Wellcraft Scarab.

What? Of course drugs and alcohol are part of the equation. Mix in testosterone and you got 3 guys going way too fast in a speed boat with zero visability in a dangerous environment. I guarantee you had Cocain and alcohol not been involved the likelihood that these three would still be alive exponentially increases.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

What? Of course drugs and alcohol are part of the equation. Mix in testosterone and you got 3 guys going way too fast in a speed boat with zero visability in a dangerous environment. I guarantee you had Cocain and alcohol not been involved the likelihood that these three would still be alive exponentially increases.

I don't buy it

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't buy it

I guess you've never been young, dumb and full of cum then because I know I was, and mix in drugs and alcohol and well, I'm lucky I'm alive.

Here's the deal with the unfortunate accident: why speed around in a boat with zero visability, no lights, and near concrete structures? If none of those young men knew what they were doing, why risk death? The only sane answer is because their reasoning/judgement is impaired.

Does anyone think Hernandez wanted to die? Neither do I. Also, this is not the first case of young professional male athletes killing themselves in a boating accident where drugs and alcohol are involved.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I guess you've never been young, dumb and full of cum then because I know I was when I was younger and mix in drugs and alcohol and well, I'm lucky I'm alive.

Here's the deal with the unfortunate accident: why speed around in a boat with zero visability, no lights, and near concrete structures. If none of those young men knew what they were doing, why risk death? The only sain answer is because their reasoning/judgement is impaired.

Does anyone think Hernandez wanted to die? Neither do I. Also, this is not the first case of young professional male athletes killing themselves in a boating accident where drugs and alcohol are involved.

No, I didn't do drugs when younger and I don't think that's why they died.

They died because of their lack of maritime experience. You can find drunk people on lakes all over America on any given summer day. Same goes for Tampa Bay, the LA South Bay, the eastern side of Florida and any number of bodies of water.

It's pretty hard to kill yourself in center console boat, unless you're inexperienced and horsing around at night in an unfamiliar location. Even then, it's pretty hard to kill yourself.

The investigation couldn't determine who was piloting the boat. One guy had no cocaine in his system and the other two had less BAC than Fernandez. That said, an experienced boater, even when "drunk", wouldn't have crashed that boat into the rocks.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, I didn't do drugs when younger and I don't think that's why they died.

They died because of their lack of maritime experience. You can find drunk people on lakes all over America on any given summer day. Same goes for Tampa Bay, the LA South Bay, the eastern side of Florida and any number of bodies of water.

It's pretty hard to kill yourself in center console boat, unless you're inexperienced and horsing around at night in an unfamiliar location. Even then, it's pretty hard to kill yourself.

The investigation couldn't determine who was piloting the boat. One guy had no cocaine in his system and the other two had less BAC than Fernandez. That said, an experienced boater, even when "drunk", wouldn't have crashed that boat into the rocks.

Fair enough. The boat was a 32' SeaVee with a top speed of 70 mph or so, there is a strong possibility Fernandez was driving, it was his boat. He was drunk and hopped up on coke. Maybe if he was not drunk and on drugs these guys don't even try and go out on the water? It's all speculation now.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Fair enough. The boat was a 32' SeaVee with a top speed of 70 mph or so, there is a strong possibility Fernandez was driving, it was his boat. He was drunk and hopped up on coke. Maybe if he was not drunk and on drugs these guys don't even try and go out on the water? It's all speculation now.

I thought it was someone else's boat.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I thought it was someone else's boat.

The article I read said it was Fernandez' boat.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I guarantee you had Cocain and alcohol not been involved the likelihood that these three would still be alive exponentially increases.

Without a doubt.