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Old 08-30-2017, 11:49 AM  
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Browns Trade OL Cam Erving To Chiefs
For a 2018 5th Round pick.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:29 PM   #106
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Erving for a 5th was a nice trade that, sadly, provides an upgrade to Jah Reid and Jordan Devey.

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I think Erving will be fine as a backup.
Dane, this was one day ago buddy...

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I'd give up nothing more than a 2021 7th rounder but I think he'll clear waivers, so if the Chiefs want him, they can sign him then.

I'd be surprised if they wanted him.
Yesterday. YESTERDAY you'd give up no more than a 7th for him. Today a 5th is 'a great value'. C'mon man, you're sucking dick for the sake of sucking it here. This is fine - there's no reason to castigate Veach and in fact some credit is due for recognizing a need and attempting to upgrade it. But folks are going HAM for no real reason right now.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:30 PM   #107
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He's not. That's your new starter at LG. Watch.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:30 PM   #108
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:30 PM   #109
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Where's our 4th? The Ragalnd trade was for a 2019 4th, so unless I'm missing something we should have one.
You're right, I have the Ragland trade listed for next year instead of 2019.

That helps.

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If we can trade Alex Smith at some point that will be a huge boost for next year's draft. I hope Mahomes proves he's ready in time for a Smith trade.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:31 PM   #110
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Our draft in 2018 as of right now?

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your missing the 4th rounder. And right now, I'm happy with all those trades. The 1st rounder is the only one that really matters anyway and what the hell are those for if not to draft a QBOTF?
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Yesterday. YESTERDAY you'd give up no more than a 7th for him. Today a 5th is 'a great value'. C'mon man, you're sucking dick for the sake of sucking it here. This is fine - there's no reason to castigate Veach and in fact some credit is due for recognizing a need and attempting to upgrade it. But folks are going HAM for no real reason right now.


You got me. Of course, it was massive hyperbole but I said it, nonetheless.

The reality is that I doubt they could have drafted an offensive lineman in the 5th round of the 2018 draft that has as much upside as Erving.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:32 PM   #114
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1 great starter and 1 good ST drafted with our 5th round picks in this regime.

I am all for this with the roster being as set as it is. Get rid of Jah Reid and save money with this kid as a reserve. Fulton, Witzmann and Erving make me feel very comfortable at backup.

Zach Fulton is most likely gone after this season, so Erving being here for a year to learn our scheme and bulk up as a cheap 2018 backup G/C is great. We can draft another guy next spring to develop for 2019.
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Chiefs acquire OT/C Cameron Erving from Browns for 5th-round pick

The Chiefs weren't one of the teams I highlighted that could trade for Cameron Erving, as they didn't have a need at center or right tackle. However, Erving was acquired to serve as a versatile backup. He can play four of the five positions up front. He can't play those positions well, but he can at least be penciled into the lineup at four spots.

Erving has been a complete failure thus far as a former first-round pick, routinely whiffing on blocks and getting called for penalties. However, he does have talent, so motivation has been an issue. Perhaps being with a winning organization will help him make something out of his career. We've seen it with Greg Robinson, who has improved in Detroit after floundering with the Rams. For a fifth-round pick, why not take a chance on him?

As for the Browns, it's nice that they got at least something for Erving. I get the sense that they were going to dump Erving during final cuts, so it's great that they received a fifth-round pick for him.

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Old 08-30-2017, 12:33 PM   #117
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If the Chiefs are smart.....they take Erving and decide on one ****ing position for him. Build him up as a swing tackle. The Browns kind of ****ed themselves by moving him around a bunch.
That's my thought. Eric Fisher isn't a top 5 OT but he isn't horrible. If Fisher had been moved around every position on the line he would have probably been pretty shitty as well. Let the guy focus on tackle. He certainly wouldn't be the first player to struggle early on but turn it around.
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FYI you don't want Erving playing tackle. He was a complete dumpster fire this preseason.







He's played guard before and he's vastly more talented than anyone we have at LG currently. He's gonna start. Watch.
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They get an A- for trading a 1st round pick for scraps.


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Nah I'm not that confident. But this smells like a LG fix to me.
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