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Old 08-30-2017, 11:49 AM  
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Browns Trade OL Cam Erving To Chiefs
For a 2018 5th Round pick.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:13 PM   #76
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Hes 2 years removed from the 1st round and despite a ton of opportunity he hasn't improved.

Hes Jonathan Baldwin. His draft status just doesn't matter that much right now. Besides, weren't you on the other side of this conversation with me yesterday?

I'm glad we got him but folks are way overselling him and are way too fired up. I'd bet he's out of football in 2 years. A 5th for that gamble is fine but not world altering.
Giving up a 5th for Jonathan Baldwin would have been considered a terrible move for another team back when we unloaded him.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:13 PM   #77
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Ehhhh....I wouldn't be so sure about that. Ehinger is backing up the OG spots and he's not on PUP anymore. We still have Fulton to back up OG and OC. I highly doubt they're keeping 2 swing tackles.
Exactly. And if Witzman sticks (I think he can), there's simply no room for Reid.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:14 PM   #78
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They are "decent" not "very good" at this point
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:14 PM   #79
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If the Chiefs are smart.....they take Erving and decide on one ****ing position for him. Build him up as a swing tackle. The Browns kind of ****ed themselves by moving him around a bunch.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:16 PM   #81
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People are up in arms over losing a 4th and a 5th round pick? Who gives a shit
A 2019 4th for Ragland was an amazing trade.

Erving for a 5th was a nice trade that, sadly, provides an upgrade to Jah Reid and Jordan Devey.

The Chiefs have done a tremendous job coaching up late round offensive talent (LDT, Ehinger, Fulton) have done a very nice job with Fisher and Morse, not to mention Witzmann, a small school UDFA.

I think Erving will be fine as a backup.
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Hopefully, Veech can trade away some guys that will be cut and get some of these draft picks back.
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A 2019 4th for Ragland was an amazing trade.

Erving for a 5th was a nice trade that, sadly, provides an upgrade to Jah Reid and Jordan Devey.

The Chiefs have done a tremendous job coaching up late round offensive talent (LDT, Ehinger, Fulton) and have done a very nice job with Fisher and Morse.

I think Erving will be fine as a backup.
Yeah I just can't get too upset over losing late picks. Chances of them hitting on the pick is low anyway
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:16 PM   #84
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:16 PM   #85
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I was worried that you guys went and got Hayden He would have been the 2nd best CB on your team.

Glad you got Erving instead.
Wouldn't be surprised IF Veach is trying to pull that off as well even though we probably can't afford him.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:17 PM   #86
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The Browns have been among the best in football at developing OL over the last several years.

His coaching in Cleveland has been fine. He's probably just bad.
That's my vote as well. This doesn't make make a lot of sense to me, but whatever
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If he sucks? Oh ****ing well. We attempted to coach up someone that apparently was talented at one time and it only cost us a 5th round pick. Cut him and sign someone else to do the job. If it works out.....then we got a swing tackle that's young and talented.

Nothing lost here.
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