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As I stated if it was all bullshit, and his character was truly questionable, he'd be in the 5th round and down flyer in the NFL evaluation process. T
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So theoretically speaking, at what point in the draft would you be willing to say "**** it, take him"?
I don't think the Chiefs will take him all things considered, but if he were there in the 5th round, you'd have to have a discussion, right? |
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02-14-2019, 10:38 AM | #18 |
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He might not be able to play at all until 2020. I'm not drafting him anywhere, at all.
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The problem is do you want to have to deal with all the media shit for a fifth rounder. They did it for Tyreek, but as discussed this is a bit different. |
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No way I’m passing up on him in the 5th. |
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I don't care WHAT the woman said. Take it at face value if you want - still don't care. The dude stood over top of a woman who was ALREADY outgunned by his sister and proceeded to punch her in the head when she was literally face down with her hands over her head. She had given up and he threw 3-4 punches in there for good measure. That IS bullshit. His character is questionable - full stop. He punched a woman laying on the ground who wasn't fighting back. That's a questionable character any way you want to slice it. And you're wrong regarding his draft statues - had MSU done with him what OSU did with Hill then his draft status would've plummeted. But had Hill stayed at OSU and played as well as Simmons did at MSU, he'd have been a high pick as well. Hill was rightfully held accountable (and to be fair, what he did was far worse), but Simmons should have been as well. His draft status is because MSU didn't hold him accountable for his actions and performed well in the SEC. His performance and pedigree is why he's a 1st round pick but that wouldn't have mattered if MSU would've stepped up when they should have. I truly couldn't give one **** less about 'honor student' status for D1 athletes; that stuff is made up from whole cloth. As for the fact that he managed to go 3 years without beating another defenseless woman - WOOPITYDOO!!!
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I highly doubt that it would be a topic in the national media to be honest. Plus, it’s not like Tyreek isn’t still on the team. If they were going to open the book they already would have.
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An 18 year old defending his sister, after a woman talked horribly about his sister's deceased child. I forgive him on this one, he never had issue before. no drug infractions, or insubordination before this incident. If he's truly habitual, he'd be a lower round pick prospect He's an honor student, and has been on the straight and narrow ever since.
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That's just being a violent shithead.
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totally ignoring that his off-field conduct has been spotless afterwards.
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If he falls to the end of the 3rd not taking him is insane. If you don't have a gaping hole that you can't fill with FA, using a 2nd on him is reasonable imo. |
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I'm not opposed to spending a late 2nd on him (maybe; depends on the board), but I'd definitely use a 3rd. I just think hand-waiving what he did as some youthful indiscretion is pretty ridiculous.
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