The Kansas City Chiefs Are A Bad Football Team

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by tredadda

I still have hope they can go on a run. The 2018 defense was also a dumpster fire and they came within an offsides of going to the SB. In a way I think them not making the playoffs is a good thing. Allows for them to cut dead weight and address positions of need with blue chip talent and not the end of every round talent.

I have a feeling that this is going to light a fire. Everyone in the media and most of the fanbase has done nothing but trash these guys since Sunday. They’ve been repeatedly called a bad football team and told they’re done. If that doesn’t motivate a person, nothing will.

[LongSufferingToady]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I have a feeling that this is going to light a fire. Everyone in the media and most of the fanbase has done nothing but trash these guys since Sunday. They’ve been repeatedly called a bad football team and told they’re done. If that doesn’t motivate a person, nothing will.

I don't think so. The Chiefs have themselves to thank for this dumpster fire of a season so far. The fans aren't abandoning the team, but they are calling it like they have seen; exactly as the Chiefs put their product on the field: horrible.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady

I don't think so. The Chiefs have themselves to thank for this dumpster fire of a season so far. The fans aren't abandoning the team, but they are calling it like they have seen; exactly as the Chiefs put their product on the field: horrible.

They've played a really tough schedule and are two self-inflicted errors away from 5-2. Bad teams can't say that.

Their turnover issues have defied the odds. I don't see how anybody could expect that to continue. The offense had moved the ball as well as ever until a bump in the road Sunday. Even if the defense struggles all year, that's no different than 2018.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

They've played a really tough schedule and are two self-inflicted errors away from 5-2. Bad teams can't say that.

Their turnover issues have defied the odds. I don't see how anybody could expect that to continue. The offense had moved the ball as well as ever until a bump in the road Sunday. Even if the defense struggles all year, that's no different than 2018.

If you're gonna count it that way, you have to take away the Cleveland win, because they won that because of a turnover. It works both ways...

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by TEX

If you're gonna count it that way, you have to take away the Cleveland win, because they won that because of a turnover. It works both ways...

Due to one turnover in the middle of the game? They couldn't put a drive together at the end.

It's a little different when you're talking about 4 TOs to 0, or a fumble when you're already in position for a game-winning FG.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Due to one turnover in the middle of the game? They couldn't put a drive together at the end.

It's a little different when you're talking about 4 TOs to 0, or a fumble when you're already in position for a game-winning FG.

Absolutely, it was the timing of it. Cleveland was marching down the field going to go up by double digits again. And they fumbled. So yes, that was a big factor in why the Chiefs won that game. Had they gone down by double digits again, I bet the chances were very slim the Chiefs could have come back from that. That's the thing, everybody is so quick to say because of the turnovers this and that, but again, it goes both ways.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by TEX

Absolutely, it was the timing of it. Cleveland was marching down the field going to go up by double digits again. And they fumbled. So yes, that was a big factor in why the Chiefs won that game. Had they gone down by double digits again, I bet the chances were very slim the Chiefs could have come back from that. That's the thing, everybody is so quick to say because of the turnovers this and that, but again, it goes both ways.

I still don't think you can just hand them a TD on that drive. They were deep in their own territory if I remember right.

But if you want to say KC "should" be 4-3, fine. 4-3 vs one of the toughest schedules isn't what bad teams do. Yeah, they looked pretty bad on Sunday, but Tampa looked even worse in week 9 last year. Even a loaded roster can look like dogshit at times.

I think they've looked like a contender in 5 of the 7 games. Having a turnstile LT is a worry, but I still think they'll get back to scoring a lot of points, and I think we'll see incremental improvement by the D. I don't agree with the people saying that Spags has lost the players. We've seen a huge improvement (and quality D, actually) in the 2nd half of the last three games.

I think you have to look at it this way: What's the most likely outcome for each player or position group? Is it likely that Chris Jones continues to be a non-factor? I'd say no. Is it likely that the offense continues to turn the ball over at a high rate? No. Is it likely that Clark is completely worthless all year? Debatable, but I'd say no. He's had stretches like this before, but I think he's bound to give us a little more.

I think the likeliest scenario is that the turnovers go way down, and we have a team that is highly efficient and high-scoring offensively, with a defense that can't stop a good offense (but is able to get a few more stops than we've seen thus far). That's a team that can still win a lot of games and possibly make a run.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I have a feeling that this is going to light a fire. Everyone in the media and most of the fanbase has done nothing but trash these guys since Sunday. They’ve been repeatedly called a bad football team and told they’re done. If that doesn’t motivate a person, nothing will.

well, I expect they'll come out and destroy the Giants.

And then go back to loafing on defense.

I think Spags has lost the defense. I don't think it's necessarily his fault, but I don't see Clark, Jones, or Reed suddenly deciding to go all out every play the rest of the season. They got paid, Two of them got their rings.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

well, I expect they'll come out and destroy the Giants.

And then go back to loafing on defense.

I think Spags has lost the defense. I don't think it's necessarily his fault, but I don't see Clark, Jones, or Reed suddenly deciding to go all out every play the rest of the season. They got paid, Two of them got their rings.

We'll see.

It'll be interesting to see the response. They've never been in this circumstance. They took some criticism after the Buffalo loss, but very few people were actually calling them a bad team or declaring their season over. They're getting a lot of disrespect right now and I'm sure they're aware of it.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

We'll see.

It'll be interesting to see the response. They've never been in this circumstance. They took some criticism after the Buffalo loss, but very few people were actually calling them a bad team or declaring their season over. They're getting a lot of disrespect right now and I'm sure they're aware of it.

I'm sure they'll come out pissed and destroy the Giants.

SEE? WE'RE STILL GREAT!

And then we'll lose to The Cowboys, and The Packers, and The Bengals, and probably the Raiders twice, and to the Chargers again.

Because we're spending a quarter of our cap on the defensive line, which is soft, overpaid, and loafing.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm sure they'll come out pissed and destroy the Giants.

SEE? WE'RE STILL GREAT!

And then we'll lose to The Cowboys, and The Packers, and The Bengals, and probably the Raiders twice, and to the Chargers again.

Because we're spending a quarter of our cap on the defensive line, which is soft, overpaid, and loafing.

We'll lose maybe one of those games.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

We'll lose maybe one of those games.

You can't realistically believe that.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by TEX

You can't realistically believe that.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm sure they'll come out pissed and destroy the Giants.

SEE? WE'RE STILL GREAT!

And then we'll lose to The Cowboys, and The Packers, and The Bengals, and probably the Raiders twice, and to the Chargers again.

Because we're spending a quarter of our cap on the defensive line, which is soft, overpaid, and loafing.

Interested to see if the Cowboys are actually any good because their schedule doesn't really show it.

Also interested to see the Packers/Cardinals, because the Packers' offense hasn't been the juggernaut that this thread would indicate. At least the Cowboys' offense has performed well against garbage teams... the Pack have been pretty mediocre across the board.

And that's not to say the Chiefs can beat either team right now regardless of whether they're SB contenders or pretenders... it's tough for me to pick 10+ wins at this point.