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Old 07-20-2022, 12:11 PM   #1
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I think the Chiefs are going to struggle against good secondaries that can play man coverage.

Where's our man coverage beater at WR? At the moment there's no WR on the roster who a defense will be afraid to leave 1v1.

It'll be interesting to see how that develops as the season progresses, how the Chiefs address that and how defenses adjust to this new look WR group.

I get the feeling we're gonna be having a lot of conversations about our WR's not getting open during critical moments of the game.
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Old 07-20-2022, 12:14 PM   #2
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I'm a bit concerned how vanilla our offense may have become without Tyreek there to burn the field. In Andy & Patrick I trust however.
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Old 07-20-2022, 12:16 PM   #3
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I think the Chiefs are going to struggle against good secondaries that can play man coverage.

Where's our man coverage beater at WR? At the moment there's no WR on the roster who a defense will be afraid to leave 1v1.

It'll be interesting to see how that develops as the season progresses, how the Chiefs address that and how defenses adjust to this new look WR group.

I get the feeling we're gonna be having a lot of conversations about our WR's not getting open during critical moments of the game.
Moore. Kelce. Hardman somehwat

Beating man coverage isn't just running past them deep.

Moore should work teams in the short area if they wanna play man with his short area quickness.
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Old 07-20-2022, 12:21 PM   #4
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Beating man coverage isn't just running past them deep.

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Exactly. Which is why im not convinced that Hardman and Moore are the solution.

We already know that Hardman struggles with press and physicality and can be thrown off his route, ****ing up the timing of the play.

Moore is TBD.

Tyreek wasn't just speed, he was a thick ball of muscle that could power through press coverages and physical DB's.

Then you have guys like Smith-Schuster who are the opposite. They can play against press coverages but dont have the speed and quickness to scare anyone deep.
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Exactly. Which is why im not convinced that Hardman and Moore are the solution.

We already know that Hardman struggles with press and physicality and can be thrown off his route, ****ing up the timing of the play.

Moore is TBD.

Tyreek wasn't just speed, he was a thick ball of muscle that could power through press coverages and physical DB's.

Then you have guys like Smith-Schuster who are the opposite. They can play against press coverages but dont have the speed and quickness to scare anyone deep.
I'd say MVS has the deep speed. The quick stuff you've got JUJU and Moore.

I kinda am starting to really warm up to the WR room.
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Old 07-20-2022, 12:48 PM   #6
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I'd say MVS has the deep speed. The quick stuff you've got JUJU and Moore.

I kinda am starting to really warm up to the WR room.
They're all one-trick ponies until proven otherwise.

I don't wanna rehash this argument we've been having all off-season, but it's a group im worried about, particularly during crunch time.
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They're all one-trick ponies until proven otherwise.

I don't wanna rehash this argument we've been having all off-season, but it's a group im worried about, particularly during crunch time.
I mean, yeah, they dont' have a guy that's gonna be an all around dude like Tyreek was (unless Moore is what they seem to think he could be). But realistically, how many teams really have one of those guys?


And really, we still do have one of those guys, he just happens to be the TE
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But realistically, how many teams really have one of those guys?
Pretty much every contender has one of those guys. Some even have 2.
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DE is the obvious weakness until proven otherwise.

DB might take some time to mature because we have a lot of new, young players.

I'll disagree somewhat on the WR group. While it is true that none of the WRs look intimidating on their own, I think Mahomes levels them up a bit. Mahomes is talented enough to compensate for somewhat ordinary WRs, IMO.
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I think the Chiefs are going to struggle against good secondaries that can play man coverage.

Where's our man coverage beater at WR? At the moment there's no WR on the roster who a defense will be afraid to leave 1v1.

It'll be interesting to see how that develops as the season progresses, how the Chiefs address that and how defenses adjust to this new look WR group.


I get the feeling we're gonna be having a lot of conversations about our WR's not getting open during critical moments of the game.
If our stubborn coach could run more against 4, 3, or even 2 man fronts, that would be a start.
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If our stubborn coach could run more against 4, 3, or even 2 man fronts, that would be a start.
I wonder how many light fronts we'll actually see now.
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I think the Chiefs are going to struggle against good secondaries that can play man coverage.

Where's our man coverage beater at WR? At the moment there's no WR on the roster who a defense will be afraid to leave 1v1.
Conversely, any NFL receiver should be capable of beating 1v1 coverage as often as not. With Kelce and 3 WR in pattern, someone will normally be open. It's an odds game, then up to Mahomes to find the open guy. We'll be fine.
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