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Old 11-19-2022, 01:17 PM   #1
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I was kind of 'that guy' at my first job in IT. It was a help desk and they had very clear metrics for productivity (amount of time on/off the phone and average call length, etc.), and after the first 6 months or so I was routinely at the top of the list.

And it was a very 'we've always done it this way' corporate environment, so you were supposed to wear at least khakis and a collared shirt. They also did casual Friday, which made even less sense to me that you were required to dress up 4 days a week, but not Fridays, and not weekends.

I worked 2-11pm for a while, so after a couple hours, all of the managers and regular shift would leave, so it seemed largely pointless to dress up for that... plus on the weekends we could wear whatever we wanted.

After a while I started introducing black jeans or the occasional 'nice t-shirt' to my wardrobe when working the 2nd shift... I'd mostly just sit in my cube, so outside of walking into the office, it's not like you'd even know.... but one person in particular who would always dress like he was going to Christmas service at church took exception to it and would make passive aggressive comments and so forth.

My manager had to fight some battles on that and other things that could be seen as favoritism, which I felt bad about, but they also didn't really see the big deal either and we'd laugh about the petty shit behind closed doors..... they were far more concerned with my productivity, just like I was.
What does that look like? Have one of those chest pockets or?
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Old 11-19-2022, 01:19 PM   #2
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What does that look like? Have one of those chest pockets or?
Sometimes without wrinkles, holes or armpit stains.

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Old 11-19-2022, 01:30 PM   #3
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This software could potentially capture this scenario if a company cared enough to looked. The premise being an employee leaves a crumb trail within the enterprise system. So clicks in certain locations at certain times, ultimately compiling enough data to create a user journey. So anything outside of that pattern would kick out as an anomaly to look into. I guess ****ing off at the exact same time everyday might trick the software but then it would get compared to peers with the same job title/description.

That said, seems like non-productive workers should ultimately reveal themselves as non-productive through existing internal evaluation processes.
Right, Accounting dorks will be the ones to adopt that shit. Because never work for accountants.

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If you have good managers they will easily be able to sift out productive workers vs those who aren't doing anything..
It takes an entire system. HR needs to bring in good people, management needs to be effective, executive needs to be good stewards of corporate finance and strategy. Any one of those things can muck up the works for the other ones.

Plus the job matters. It doesn't matter how good of a manager whoever you want to throw out there, you can't just plug anyone into a job they don't want to be in (let's say...operations of a grain farm) and get effective work out of them.


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I was talking entry level unskilled and that figure wasn't weighing in benefits.
If a guy is a certified welder, he isn't unskilled anymore. And maybe wages are depressed out there. They are certainly not here.

And it's possible I was unclear. The $15/hr job at the coop isn't welding. It's dumping trucks and sweeping bins. There is a sizable gulf between that dude and a certified welder.
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Old 11-19-2022, 01:45 PM   #4
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Sometimes without wrinkles, holes or armpit stains.

Sometimes.
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Old 11-19-2022, 01:42 PM   #5
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What does that look like? Have one of those chest pockets or?
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Old 11-19-2022, 01:44 PM   #6
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Fair enough - for some reason I was thinking bedazzled or one of this "tux" t-shirts
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