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Old 12-25-2022, 03:23 PM  
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It seems like the offense has been a lot less dynamic without Hardman. He might be the spark needed going into the playoffs.

I know the accepted narrative here is one that treats Hardman as some sort of JAG. But I really like his freakish athleticism, his playmaking ability, and his unselfishness. He’s still really young and has acted like a kid at times, but I’ve got this nagging feeling that if the light ever comes on he’s gonna be special.

He’s made some really great plays and I love the way he runs in traffic. He doesn’t shift gears. It’s like he’s in variable glide mode.
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Old 12-26-2022, 12:56 PM   #31
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Old 12-26-2022, 12:59 PM   #32
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Those are jokes, Dress Up Elvis.

And leave JWat alone. He’s solid for a WR5.
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Old 12-26-2022, 01:00 PM   #33
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Old 12-26-2022, 01:03 PM   #34
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Hardman is a gadget player but if used correctly he can be a very useful weapon in this offense.
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Old 12-26-2022, 01:08 PM   #35
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Old 12-26-2022, 01:14 PM   #36
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I'd rather pay Hardman than MVS
Yeah think I'm the same, if it was the same cost. Have no interest in Watson coming back. He blocks well, he's cheap, cool, it's obviously got SOME value given how good this offence is, but he's a JAG otherwise. MVS has the occasional flash play but just a LOT of nothing. Least Hardman is impactful in the red zone.
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Old 12-26-2022, 01:50 PM   #37
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I hope Hardman comes back he has came in clutch more than once in big games and playoffs. **** the haters. No he didn't live up to his draft slot but a 3rd or 4rh round he would have been a steel. He made the pro bowl his rookie year on ST so that's something he can hang his hat on. I think he should be returning balls because he is dangerous on the fly. I also like his pre snap miss directions in the backfield he does a good job with it and helps confuse the defense and they have to account for him. No he is not elite but he is better than most want to give him credit for and he was worth the draft pick because he helped propel us in the playoffs to the Super Bowl. He can be a home run any time he gets the ball.

i think he has been under utilized for the most part.
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Old 12-26-2022, 02:14 PM   #38
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Hardman is a gadget player but if used correctly he can be a very useful weapon in this offense.
As a WR3 or 4, not 1 or 2. My problem with him is that he doesn't run disciplined routes. When the call is for a 12 yard up and out, that doesn't mean 13 yards or 10.5, it means 12 -- period. When your job is to break in, it means doing it like a sports car, not a wide tractor trailer turn. Speed is great, but on days like Sat., a long throw is just out.
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Old 12-26-2022, 02:46 PM   #39
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What does Hardman get on the open market? 4 years 32 mill?
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Old 12-26-2022, 03:38 PM   #40
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What does Hardman get on the open market? 4 years 32 mill?
Prolly like 3/30
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Old 12-26-2022, 03:42 PM   #41
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Prolly like 3/30
I Belize you are probably in the ballpark. Davanta Parker got 3 for 30, MVS 2 for 15 so I think 8-10 million per for a few years gets it done. Probably more than we will want to pay with Toney, MVS, Sky and hopefully JuJu coming back.
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Old 12-26-2022, 03:43 PM   #42
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We have Toney to fill the Hardman role.

I don’t think Hardman can fill the MVS role.

Ie, I’d rather have Toney and MVS next year than Toney and Hardman and I’m pretty sure that’s how things are gonna end up.
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We have Toney to fill the Hardman role.

I don’t think Hardman can fill the MVS role.

Ie, I’d rather have Toney and MVS next year than Toney and Hardman and I’m pretty sure that’s how things are gonna end up.
I think so too. So the better option is to find a WR who can get Mvs and Watson off the field.
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Old 12-26-2022, 04:23 PM   #45
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We have Toney to fill the Hardman role.

I don’t think Hardman can fill the MVS role.

Ie, I’d rather have Toney and MVS next year than Toney and Hardman and I’m pretty sure that’s how things are gonna end up.
Hardman had never missed a game before this year. You best not depend on Toney suddenly becoming Cal Ripken.
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