Kudos to Veach and the OL

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

I mean, we can almost assuredly pencil in Belicheck NOT trading up for McDuffie. For starters.

Yup, traded down when the only guy Veach felt was a 1st rounder was sitting right in his lap.

He did it to draft G Cole Strange. I don't know how good he's been, but his PFF grade is ****ing awful, so I'm going to assume he's as bad of a draft pick and a reach as everybody thought he was.

It's not like he didn't need a CB either. He got one this year with Christian Gonzalez, and he looks great.

But it's a lot easier drafting in the top 20 than picks 29-32...

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yup, traded down when the only guy Veach felt was a 1st rounder was sitting right in his lap.

He did it to draft G Cole Strange. I don't know how good he's been, but his PFF grade is ****ing awful, so I'm going to assume he's as bad of a draft pick and a reach as everybody thought he was.

It's not like he didn't need a CB either. He got one this year with Christian Gonzalez, and he looks great.

But it's a lot easier drafting in the top 20 than picks 29-32...

And that's where the rubber meets the road, IMO. Beach hasn't had a high draft pick during his tenure. He's always picking at the bottom of each round and trying to collect even more late-round picks that he can quickly turn into starters.

I think the answer here is zero; there are zero other GMs who would have the success Bert has had in compiling this team through the draft. Roseman has been incredible with his high-ish first and 2nd rounders and trades, but nobody has outdone Bert throughout the draft, IMO. I'm certainly willing to listen to arguments otherwise, but I haven't seen any yet that beat what's been done in KC with fewer/lesser assets.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

And that's where the rubber meets the road, IMO. Beach hasn't had a high draft pick during his tenure. He's always picking at the bottom of each round and trying to collect even more late-round picks that he can quickly turn into starters.

I think the answer here is zero; there are zero other GMs who would have the success Bert has had in compiling this team through the draft. Roseman has been incredible with his high-ish first and 2nd rounders and trades, but nobody has outdone Bert throughout the draft, IMO. I'm certainly willing to listen to arguments otherwise, but I haven't seen any yet that beat what's been done in KC with fewer/lesser assets.

I dunno about sheer numbers but Roseman got an elite LT in the 7th round, elite centre in the 6th, the Blankenship fella looks like he might be a stud UDFA, Sweat in the 4th...there's plenty of late round talent there, admittedly over a longer period.