Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[RavensMania]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Even though Josh Allen has more than double the # of career playoff wins than Lamar?

Lamar hasn't played the last two seasons and as much as people want to pin all these losses on Lamar, you truly need to go back and look at the games.

That first game in 2018 he was thrown into the mix after playing on the scout team and then taking over for Joe Flacco mid season after he had a back injury. If it wasn't for that injury, the ravens don't even make the playoffs.

2019 - hit a Titans team when we just had some injuries. Andrews playing with a calf injury, Ingram playing with injury and no, I'm not blaming it on injuries, but the game came down to a bunch of drops with well placed balls that could have been touchdowns.

2020 - he was injured in the 3rd quarter - concussion had to leave the game

2021 - injured didn't play last month

2022 - injured did't play last month

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Even though Josh Allen has more than double the # of career playoff wins than Lamar?

Four of his five wins are in the wild card. Lamar skips over the wild card half the time.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

You think the coach and GM who built their entire offense around a guy for the past five years would dispose of him for a guy who is worse by almost every statistic? Based on what, exactly? Your eye test?

These hypothetical are ridiculous in the first place.

Josh Allen has more TD passes, passing yards, total wins and playoff wins as a starting QB compared to Lamar.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Four of his five wins are in the wild card. Lamar skips over the wild card half the time.

Skips the wild card to choke in the Divisional Round?

[O.city]

I'd say they'd definitely rather have the more durable QB, if you asked the Ravens GM about a potential JOsh Allen trade.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I glanced at this highlight package from Rams @ Ravens because there's some factors that could play out similarly this Sunday - weather/wet field, in Baltimore, strong armed QB who improvises some, a couple of

To me, you see it - if you can protect your QB, there's plenty of opportunities to exploit that back end. Humphrey didn't look good in that game and he isn't healthy now. The safeties and linebackers can definitely get mixed up passing things off out of condensed/bunch alignments.

On a wet field, rushing the passer is going to be more difficult. Covering receivers is more difficult. Defense is going to be more difficult.

If we are neutralizing the defenses to a degree with the field conditions, to me that does play more into the Chiefs favor because they have the superior passer who is more likely to win if this does become a shootout.

Except you don't have Puka Nukua and Cooper Kupp.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Josh Allen has more TD passes, passing yards, total wins and playoff wins as a starting QB compared to Lamar.

But the Ravens have Gus Edwards and Patrick Ricard. So they clearly built an offense around Lamar and couldn't possibly move him for a guy who's been better by every meaningful measure.

I mean, they CAN'T move on from Patrick Ricard...

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Calm down. We have the best rivalry in the NFL with the Steelers. In a division full of rivalries. Would be fun if it happens the way Ravens/Patriots did, but we don't need you as a rival. Go be rivals with the Broncos or whatever the AFC West has to offer as far as rivalries go, big dog.

You live in a really small world if you think the Ravens/Steelers rivalry is the best in the NFL...because it probably wouldn't crack the Top 10...

Chiefs/Raiders
Dallas/Giants
Dallas/Eagles
Chiefs/Broncos
Chiefs/Bills
Dallas/Washington

Probably many more that would be considered a real rivalry.....you know, where there is always bad blood no matter what the records?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

If I say "tell me something impressive" and you say "I drove to work today", and I laugh at you... and you say "well, I also microwaved my own lunch", and I laugh at you again.... that's not me "moving the goalposts," the issue is your pathetic definition of impressive.

Hope that clears it up.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

If you ask me to tell something impressive and I tell you that Lamar Jackson just turned 27 years old and has won his 2nd MVP

*and I laugh at you*

This whole thing is about convincing another message board that the Ravens are a *historically great* team before they've accomplished anything significant.... if you think that means regular season success and beating a rookie QB 10 win team at home in the playoffs, then certainly don't let us stop you from microwaving that lunch of yours.

Us asking you to look at our definition of "historically great" and you coming up with nothing again doesn't mean the goalposts are moving on our end, it's just how we define greatness.

Maybe your own goalposts will move over time if the Ravens don't win another SB, or maybe you'll forever be happy with just being in the playoff conversation... doesn't matter much to us, but that doesn't mean we're going to lower our bar of what success means to the Chiefs franchise to make you feel better about your own.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Except you don't have Puka Nukua and Cooper Kupp.

Ravens supposedly stout secondary was carved up by a broke dick Cooper Kupp.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

Yes, any claims that restrict comparisons to a particular time frame are biased because they are chosen to reflect well on one of the subjects of comparison. The Ravens have been very successful "in that time frame," but we can all pick our time frames. Since Patrick Mahomes became the starting QB in Kansas City, no other franchise in the NFL has been as successful as the Kansas City Chiefs, and it isn't even particularly close.

I understand what you're saying, but the postseason success stands on its own. You can compare the Ravens' playoff wins, AFCCG appearances, and SBs to franchises with much longer histories--which should bias it in favor of the older franchises--and the Ravens come out ahead of multiple of those teams combined in absolute terms.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs are getting better every week against progressively better defenses.

CIN - 373 - 1 TD - 6 FG
MIA - 409 - 2 TD - 4 FG
BUF - 361 (franchise record Y/P) - 3 TD - 2 FG

The Chiefs are about to explode on Baltimore.

They're locked in right now and getting better every week.

In -30 wind chill and on the road.

There is no stopping this freight train.

Only on Planet Chiefs is playing 2 defenses that are missing their entire LB core amongst other injuries are the Chiefs playing progressively better defenses.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by RavensMania

Lamar hasn't played the last two seasons and as much as people want to pin all these losses on Lamar, you truly need to go back and look at the games.

That first game in 2018 he was thrown into the mix after playing on the scout team and then taking over for Joe Flacco mid season after he had a back injury. If it wasn't for that injury, the ravens don't even make the playoffs.

2019 - hit a Titans team when we just had some injuries. Andrews playing with a calf injury, Ingram playing with injury and no, I'm not blaming it on injuries, but the game came down to a bunch of drops with well placed balls that could have been touchdowns.

2020 - he was injured in the 3rd quarter - concussion had to leave the game

2021 - injured didn't play last month

2022 - injured did't play last month

You are highlighting another reason Josh Allen is superior to Lamar… durability/availability.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

You live in a really small world if you think the Ravens/Steelers rivalry is the best in the NFL...because it probably wouldn't crack the Top 10...

Chiefs/Raiders
Dallas/Giants
Dallas/Eagles
Chiefs/Broncos
Chiefs/Bills
Dallas/Washington

Probably many more that would be considered a real rivalry.....you know, where there is always bad blood no matter what the records?

My man listed his team in three of the top six rivalries. And then Dallas in the other three. Including one between the Cowboys and the corpse of the Redskins. Literally just posting division matchups without mentioning the AFC North, which is the peak of division matchups. Go off, king.

There are two rivalries the networks even bother to feature in their coverage of games: Ravens/Steelers and Bears/Packers. And the latter is more of a relic of history than a rivalry.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

You know Kelce hyperextended his knee just before the season started right? You know that he is maybe the greatest TE of all time right? You know that he'll be giving everything he has on Sunday right? Remember this. Kelce is not 40 years old hanging on for a few more paychecks. He's still near the top of his game.

For whatever reason he played dropped off this season. I guess everyone seen it but Planet Chief.