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Old 01-29-2024, 10:32 AM  
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Has postseason play changed your perspective on the draft?

Every single draft has us taking a WR in the first round. The more I sit in that thought, the more it feels reactionary.

The next year will be filled with trying to figure out which guys on rookie deals to extend or let go to free agency. Humphrey, Smith, Bolton, Gay, Sneed, and others who are all big contributors to the team.

I'm starting to think we aren't going WR in round 1 and I could us not taking a skill guy until the third round.

I could see us going DT in round one if we don't extend Jones. I could see us taking a guard in round two considering we could be in a place where we are needing to replace Humphrey or Smith after next season AND Thuney after 2025.

This feels like a draft where we restock for the longterm v. trying to fill an immediate pain point that hurt us during the regular season.
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Old 01-29-2024, 08:20 PM   #31
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I think I feel more comfortable with the OTs.

Even more convinced now that we should keep Sneed and Tranquill, and ask Chris to stay within the team's capabilities. If you can keep these guys, and you're happy with OT, we're free to take a WR in RD 1 and hopefully add another deadly weapon to a SB winning team.

Another thought: Swapping out MVS for RD 1 WR Thomas JR would save us $12m and improve the offense we already have.

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Old 01-29-2024, 08:21 PM   #32
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If they finish this thing off, gonna be hard to say Veach shouldn’t keep doing what’s worked..

Mahomes with a defense is deadly. I’m not saying you have to bring back the same guys, but I think there’s a very smart blueprint to follow with the one-year veteran defensive signings.

OL + DL have to be set before you over invest at WR. I hope to see a draft pick at WR, and then just one more reliable vet who costs like $10m per.
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Old 01-29-2024, 08:48 PM   #33
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What if it’s Hollywood Brown (replace MVS speed) + a top 65 pick at WR?

Might leave enough meat on the bone to then build out your trenches.

The deep ball threat is the role the offense needs to stay highly functional and we are seeing it this playoffs now that MVS is playing up to it.

You don’t need the 2018 WR corp, but you need consistent threats at all levels.
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Old 01-29-2024, 11:12 PM   #34
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What if it’s Hollywood Brown (replace MVS speed) + a top 65 pick at WR?

Might leave enough meat on the bone to then build out your trenches.

The deep ball threat is the role the offense needs to stay highly functional and we are seeing it this playoffs now that MVS is playing up to it.

You don’t need the 2018 WR corp, but you need consistent threats at all levels.
I have no issue with that.

My issue overall is that I don't think there's a DT I'd take in round 1 outside of Newton and he won't be around in all likelihood. The other factor is, generally, you aren't getting an LT prospect at 32.

I do think there will be more meat on the bone at WR and CB that late with DT being a quality position in round 2.
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Old 01-30-2024, 12:44 AM   #35
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I have no issue with that.

My issue overall is that I don't think there's a DT I'd take in round 1 outside of Newton and he won't be around in all likelihood. The other factor is, generally, you aren't getting an LT prospect at 32.

I do think there will be more meat on the bone at WR and CB that late with DT being a quality position in round 2.
This is exactly my take. Sure we can go BPA from WR, OT and DT in R1...but that's far more likely to be a WR in this draft. Let's just get a really good WR prospect R1 and work the rest out afterwards.
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Old 01-30-2024, 04:20 AM   #36
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I think that veach has WR as the top need identified.

Theres no guarantee that he takes one in the first, but he is obviously going to be looking around for a chance to go grab one there.

I dont have confidence in the board falling Kansas City way, kind of how last year went. Its hard to get top teir WR talent when you pick 32nd.


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Old 01-30-2024, 04:51 AM   #37
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I think we need to spend on an experienced consistent WR. Not convinced on taking another one early in the draft. I think after last weekends outburst Toney is out of here. That’s a sneaky 2.5m Deadcap hit. I think basically we need to replace MVSs 11M saving for somebody else. Even short term. 2025 WR FA class is absolutely elite. This years looks like a poor cousin. Let’s not lock into something we will regret. That market is cooling.

People seem to love Morris but he looked rough to me and clearly coincided to when we were playing out worst. Mahomes looked constantly rushed during that period. No way I’d be confident letting Smith walk without a 1st round replacement. Not likely to be there at #32 though

Justin Reid is a great player but he’s overpaid imo. For me he needs to be restructured or dare I said it moved on from in painful call. He shouldn’t be a top 5 paid player on this team. That’s way too big a luxury. Cook is underrated and will be back and Conner really came on. Keeping Edwards would be cheaper.

D line is the area that’s now going to need big draft capital. Pretty clear Jones is gone. Now with Omenihu being out most of the year we need something other than run stuffers

Ps are we aloud to say we may need a new punter yet?
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Old 01-30-2024, 07:28 AM   #38
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I have no issue with that.

My issue overall is that I don't think there's a DT I'd take in round 1 outside of Newton and he won't be around in all likelihood. The other factor is, generally, you aren't getting an LT prospect at 32.

I do think there will be more meat on the bone at WR and CB that late with DT being a quality position in round 2.
I defer to you on that - I’m admittedly way behind in offseason analysis so I don’t know where the positional depth pockets exist beyond at WR.

But I know Veach does, since that “pocket” purchasing is at the core of his roster building philosophy.

I’ll trust their approach, but it sounds perfectly logical to expect we might patch the DL together largely in FA with mostly short term deals, and expect that WR is addressed early in draft.
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Old 01-30-2024, 09:18 AM   #39
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People might hate it, but man if we could trade back a bit and grab an extra 3rd rounder, that would be nice.
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I have no issue with that.

My issue overall is that I don't think there's a DT I'd take in round 1 outside of Newton and he won't be around in all likelihood. The other factor is, generally, you aren't getting an LT prospect at 32.

I do think there will be more meat on the bone at WR and CB that late with DT being a quality position in round 2.
I see some mocks having Byron Murphy available for us at 32. Oftentimes with Leggette and Sanders on the board.

I think I'd go with Murphy.
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As this goes along too.....I'm coming back to signing Chris Jones.
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It's early but I'm with Pest here in thinking that the Chiefs will most likely not use a 1st rd pick on a WR. They don't need to get a WR bc Rice is a WR1 and he's proven it over and over again. They need complimentary guys.

If you look at the Chiefs strategy from all of their games in the postseason, it's always 2 main guys getting the targets, especially in the post Tyreek era. Aside from those 2 (Kelce and Juju/Rice) everyone else just gets 1-3 targets a game. Not seeing us needing that from a 1st rd pick.

I think they're gonna get a good consistent value guy like Tyler Boyd who won't cost that much but will be that experienced vet like Juju was and can be the guy who can step up as a WR2 if needed.

The draft is just so loaded with WR's this year. I posted the tweet in the WR thread about 11 WR's projected as top 50 picks. I think the ey can trade up for a Xavier Worthy or Jalen McMillan in rd 2 or just stay there.

I'd like them to get a speed threat who can do what Hardman does but actually catch the ball. A guy like Marvin Mims who I liked last year. A guy like that would help a lot.
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I think you need to start really thinking about post Kelce world and what that will look like.

That's one reason I really like Legette and Worthy.
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I get that O.city, I feel that too... then I come back to it feels like we'd be veering off the approach that's been setting us apart if we do it.

Do not wanna get caught paying for what a guy did in years prior. Have to pay for prime years.

The catch with Chris is he might have another 1-2 dominant years left. And that might secure you another SB. But it's risky with so much cash already in escrow for our talent that is still 26 or under.

You still offer him, competitively, but I doubt he's willing to settle. Which is too bad because he has to be making some good cash off endorsements these days. Mahomes should dangle a commercial carrot or two out there.
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