Tyreek Hill arrested?

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Again everyone keeps saying it was a construction zone. The citation does not mention a construction zone. Just because you see work zone barrels in the video does not mean it's a construction zone.

I think everybody could agree that Hill was an asshole and could of handle the situation better. But Hill doesn't have the authority and power the police officers do. We should expect more from them than the citizen as it is literally their job.

The way the police officers handled the situation was dangerous and unprofessional. The fact that people make excuses for them is why there is so much distrust of the police no matter your race.

Sounds like you might have experience with law enforcement? Can I ask what should have happened? Are you ok with how the 1st officer handled things? It looks like exactly the same thing would have happened as the 1st officer was the one who asked him to get out of his vehicle but when he did not comply that's when the 2nd officer took over.

What should have happened?

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by Balto

Sounds like you might have experience with law enforcement? Can I ask what should have happened? Are you ok with how the 1st officer handled things? It looks like exactly the same thing would have happened as the 1st officer was the one who asked him to get out of his vehicle but when he did not comply that's when the 2nd officer took over.

What should have happened?

From the time the first officer asked Tyreek to exit the vehicle and the second officer was ripping open his door was under 5 seconds. 8-10 seconds after they first asked Tyreek to exit the vehicle he was on the ground being handcuffed.

Do you think they gave him any reasonable time to comply with their request?

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

From the time the first officer asked Tyreek to exit the vehicle and the second officer was ripping open his door was under 5 seconds. 8-10 seconds after they first asked Tyreek to exit the vehicle he was on the ground being handcuffed.

Do you think they gave him any reasonable time to comply with their request?

While yes I agree that was fast you also have to take into consideration that up to that point Tyreek was not doing what was asked of him with a timely manner. Why should the officers think he will all of a sudden do what is being asked of him when he has shown, up to that point, that he will not?

Ever think that maybe by the 2nd officer coming in and taking control DID actually deescalate the situation and actually make it to were both Tyreek and the 1st officer didn't get in a back and forth situation that could have turned very ugly?

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by Balto

While yes I agree that was fast you also have to take into consideration that up to that point Tyreek was not doing what was asked of him with a timely manner. Why should the officers think he will all of a sudden do what is being asked of him when he has shown, up to that point, that he will not?

Ever think that maybe by the 2nd officer coming in and taking control DID actually deescalate the situation and actually make it to were both Tyreek and the 1st officer didn't get in a back and forth situation that could have turned very ugly?

What orders did Tyreek not comply with that lead to him being thrown on the ground and or in handcuffs? Then after they pulled him up the cop then put his hands around his neck and forced him back on the ground.

Being an asshole does not mean you lose your rights in the eyes of the law.

How would you feel if that was your wife or daughter and the police did that to them?

[KCJake]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Being an asshole does not mean you lose your rights in the eyes of the law.

Maybe not in a courtroom but on the streets is does. Not saying it's right but it's the way it is.

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by KCJake

Maybe not in a courtroom but on the streets is does. Not saying it's right but it's the way it is.

That in here lies the problem. Cops hold so much power. They need to be held accountable when they violate those rights.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

That in here lies the problem. Cops hold so much power. They need to be held accountable when they violate those rights.

I agree but no rights were violated. Officer 2 could have been a little less extreme in my opinion but maybe that's how he was trained?

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

What orders did Tyreek not comply with that lead to him being thrown on the ground and or in handcuffs? Then after they pulled him up the cop then put his hands around his neck and forced him back on the ground.

Being an asshole does not mean you lose your rights in the eyes of the law.

How would you feel if that was your wife or daughter and the police did that to them?

I believe that the way the 2nd officer physically handled it rougher than it needed to be but I also do not know what the actual protocols are for this, do you?

I believe that Tyreek was not listening to the office with regards to keeping his window down and would not answer about his seat belt. He was also talking over the officer which could cause the officer to not be 100% sure that Tyreek was listening to him.

I hope my wife and daughter would be more respectful and listened to the officer and that would have never happened. Otherwise I would be very upset if they were physically handled like that but I would also hope it would be a learning situation. Tyreek was not beaten, tazed or hurt at any point. Tyreek looked to be somewhat resisting being handcuffed and thus I'm sure the officers are trained to bring him to the ground.

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by Balto

I believe that the way the 2nd officer physically handled it rougher than it needed to be but I also do not know what the actual protocols are for this, do you?

I believe that Tyreek was not listening to the office with regards to keeping his window down and would not answer about his seat belt. He was also talking over the officer which could cause the officer to not be 100% sure that Tyreek was listening to him.

I hope my wife and daughter would be more respectful and listened to the officer and that would have never happened. Otherwise I would be very upset if they were physically handled like that but I would also hope it would be a learning situation. Tyreek was not beaten, tazed or hurt at any point. Tyreek looked to be somewhat resisting being handcuffed and thus I'm sure the officers are trained to bring him to the ground.

Your wife or daughter acting a fool but not committing a crime. Does not give someone the right to physically assault them. Saying oh he wasn't beaten or tazed so it's okay is setting the bar extremely low.

You know if this was someone you cared about you would be up in arms and demanding something be done about the officers involved.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Your wife or daughter acting a fool but not committing a crime. Does not give someone the right to physically assault them. Saying oh he wasn't beaten or tazed so it's okay is setting the bar extremely low.

You know if this was someone you cared about you would be up in arms and demanding something be done about the officers involved.

Is it not law in Florida that the office has the right to ask a person to exit the vehicle? Tyreek gave the officers questionability if he would comply by his previous attitude and actions. I've already stated multiple times I agree that the 2nd officer went way to extreme than what was called for BUT I did not see anything that showed he actually harmed Tyreek in anyway.

[tyreekthefreak]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

From the time the first officer asked Tyreek to exit the vehicle and the second officer was ripping open his door was under 5 seconds. 8-10 seconds after they first asked Tyreek to exit the vehicle he was on the ground being handcuffed.

Do you think they gave him any reasonable time to comply with their request?

It was Hill's previous behavior that led to his quick evacuation!

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by George Liquor

But good for him for taking some accountability.

True but there is plenty of blame to go around to everyone in this traffic stop.

[George Liquor]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

True but there is plenty of blame to go around to everyone in this traffic stop.

I know, and I said they were all dumbasses a couple of times in this thread.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Balto

Sounds like you might have experience with law enforcement? Can I ask what should have happened? Are you ok with how the 1st officer handled things? It looks like exactly the same thing would have happened as the 1st officer was the one who asked him to get out of his vehicle but when he did not comply that's when the 2nd officer took over.

What should have happened?

What should have happened? After Hill put his window down completely and handed his paperwork over the cop should have gone back to his bike and written the ticket. End of story. He was pulled over for speeding - write the ticket.

It was never about officer safety.within seconds of asking him to exit you have an officer cursing and threatening to break his window and getting violent. Seconds. They were so concerned about they don’t even frisk him. This was all about hurt egos.

Also 6-7 cops for a speeding ticket where the driver promptly pulls over?

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

What should have happened? After Hill put his window down completely and handed his paperwork over the cop should have gone back to his bike and written the ticket. End of story. He was pulled over for speeding - write the ticket.

It was never about officer safety.within seconds of asking him to exit you have an officer cursing and threatening to break his window and getting violent. Seconds. They were so concerned about they don’t even frisk him. This was all about hurt egos.

Also 6-7 cops for a speeding ticket where the driver promptly pulls over?

They told him to keep his window down and he needs to do it. As far as the number of officers, That's the number of officers working the detail and they observed him speeding further up the road and called it into the officer that initially pulled him over.