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Old 03-05-2025, 02:15 PM  
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Nate Taylor: Chiefs targeting OT Ronnie Stanley in free agency



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When free agency begins, the Chiefs will target Ronnie Stanley, the nine-year veteran who is the best left tackle available on the market, according to sources. Stanley, who will turn 31 this month, started all 17 season games last season for the Baltimore Ravens. He earned a 70.7 overall grade from Pro Football Focus and allowed just three sacks.
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:11 PM   #316
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**** it, let's use 6 OL on every snap. Quantity over quality.
Or rotate them in and out of the lineup like D-linemen lol!....hey, wait a sec....
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:27 PM   #317
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I don't know how much Nagy is to blame for the offensive woes of the past two seasons, but I feel very comfortable saying he certainly hasn't done anything to garner confidence in his abilities to bring anything new, effective, unique to the table.
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:36 PM   #318
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Conerly is a significantly better prospect than Kingsley and I'll die on that hill. Kingsley's tape at LT is not nearly as good, he just showed flashes and has that great combo of size and athleticism.

Simmons I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for now based on positive reports and him supposedly having a personal combine. The combine came and went and there were no negative reports about the injury, only positive. Great sign.

Like I said, Ersery is more of the usual (Kingsley, Guyton, etc.), but I also think he's a better prospect than those guys albeit not by a lot.

And again, I'm not advocating for it, but it's certainly an option. I'm just saying it's looking like a better option than it has been the last couple of years IMO.
Conerly is a more developed player but he's not a great prospect physically. He reminds me a lot of Rashawn Slater.

Conerly is one of those guys I think has a high floor but is close to being developed. He is what he is.
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:47 PM   #319
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Look at what changed from the 2022 team to the 2023 team?

-Orlando was a decent playable LT who left for the Bengals. Smith was solid but missed over a month and Wanya got Mahomes killed
-Kelce left his prime after 2022 and has not been the same since
-Juju was WR1 and had about 1,000+ yards and left for the Patriots
-McKinnon had 9 (!!!) receiving TD’s and then left his prime and became injury prone

Those alone were the pillars of success in 2022. Since then we’ve had 26 drops in a season, then injuries to WR1/WR2/RB1
, 5 LT’s and the least explosive RB room in football.

It’s personnel


Orlando Brown Jr was decent and better than Donovan Smith but not by a lot.

JuJu leaving hurt but Rice became WR #1 by the playoff run and the offense still looked like shit compared to 2022.

Kelce looked in his prime for the 2023 team's run. He was incredible.

McKinnon was a nice bet but he was being paid 1 million, vet minimum type number. You're telling me Veach couldn't find a similar talent?

Our offense went to #1 and scoring 38 against a stacked Eagles team in 2022 to 15-16 straight drives without a TD in the AF.C Championship and SB?!


I will say this for Nagy. Dude has had the best gig since Doug Peterson holding a clipboard and doing that at 3 stops.
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:51 PM   #320
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This is Andy's offense and I fault Andy.

I don't think the offense' decline is Nagy's fault. There's just too many factors at play.

That being said, he's certainly not contributing to any new or fresh ideas because this offense looks stale.

Again, I blame Andy. He needs somebody in here that's more than a yes man.
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:58 PM   #321
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Love Veach and Andy but they are not infallible.

The decision to make Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney WR1/WR2 in 2023, deciding to start Kingsley Suamatia who was clearly not in any way ready, the decision not invest in RB2 until they signed Samaje Perine at the end of August.

That’s a huge reason this offense has stalled. That’s not Nagy
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:58 PM   #322
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I'm not sure I'm as high on Conerly as some, but I do think he's a better prospect than Kingsley. Or perhaps he's similar, but I'm more comfortable with where he's currently lacking.

I think he's most definitely a better mover than Kingsley and has better hands. The issue is strength with Conerly, I don't think that's a concern with Kingsley.

I guess I'm just way more comfortable with a guy with good speed and agility and young enough to get stronger, than I am with other prospects with more questionable mobility.

I know people are, reasonably, concerned with Stanley's injury record. But a situation where he's here on mega bucks for a year and Conerly redshirts, I think I'd be pretty happy with that. If he's starting, yeah, I'm nervous, but less nervous than seeing Kingsley there again.
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Love Veach and Andy but they are not infallible.

The decision to make Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney WR1/WR2 in 2023, deciding to start Kingsley Suamatia who was clearly not in any way ready, the decision not invest in RB2 until they signed Samaje Perine at the end of August.

That’s a huge reason this offense has stalled. That’s not Nagy
People seem to forget that before Mahomes arrived, about half this fan base was anti-Reid. I was never in that boat, but he had major warts as a HC, as do most of them. Mahomes covered a lot of those warts and has continued to do so.

The Chiefs have created a terrific organization for Patrick, we are winning Super Bowls like they're preseason games. Nobody can deny that or take away from it. However, Andy and Veach have had a lot more misses than some people want to admit, and have been saved by Mahomes and this defense many times because of it. They take risks they probably wouldn't take with Alex Smith at QB as far as position players. Is that a good or a bad thing? Lately, it's failed more than it's succeeded. Let's hope the tide turns this offseason.
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This is Andy's offense and I fault Andy.

I don't think the offense' decline is Nagy's fault. There's just too many factors at play.

That being said, he's certainly not contributing to any new or fresh ideas because this offense looks stale.

Again, I blame Andy. He needs somebody in here that's more than a yes man.
My personal belief is once Nagy came back, Reid has delegated a lot of the offense to him.


Our offense looks Nagified with a lot 0f the staples of Nagy's Bears.

Or if it's Andy, we went back to the Alex Smith offense without the sharpness.

If it's actually Reid and not Nagy, still sucks. Our offense is stale and doesn't give the QB easy layups that other teams get.

The SB, Fangio's players knew our playbook better than we did.
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Old 03-07-2025, 03:52 PM   #325
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This is Andy's offense and I fault Andy.

I don't think the offense' decline is Nagy's fault. There's just too many factors at play.

That being said, he's certainly not contributing to any new or fresh ideas because this offense looks stale.

Again, I blame Andy. He needs somebody in here that's more than a yes man.
Makes me wonder just how much more Andy has left in the tank?
He’s almost 67. He’s got nothing left to prove to anyone. How much motivation and creativity does he have left??
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Old 03-07-2025, 04:01 PM   #327
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How much motivation and creativity does he have left??
To become the all time winning HC in NFL history? He's 50 wins away - that's basically 5 seasons at most.
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Makes me wonder just how much more Andy has left in the tank?
He’s almost 67. He’s got nothing left to prove to anyone. How much motivation and creativity does he have left??


If Andy wants to stay on as head coach and be the leader of men but not run the offense he should hire a new Offensive Coordinator.


Because Mahomes is not going to put up with Nagy much longer. Look at our offensive players on the sidelines most of last year.


Very little joy.
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