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Old 02-27-2008, 01:33 PM  
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:18 AM   #76
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Everyone on this board always says don't draft or don't take a player too early just because of his workout. That's what everyone is doing with Gholston. He has a very good workout and now people think he's a top 3 pick.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:27 AM   #77
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Everyone on this board always says don't draft or don't take a player too early just because of his workout. That's what everyone is doing with Gholston. He has a very good workout and now people think he's a top 3 pick.
Please dude, do a search.

Most of us that like Gholston said so at least TWO FULL WEEKS prior to the combine. This has nothing to do with his workouts.

In fact, alot of us have said that his workout pretty much guarantees he'll be picked well before us.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:28 AM   #78
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Everyone on this board always says don't draft or don't take a player too early just because of his workout. That's what everyone is doing with Gholston. He has a very good workout and now people think he's a top 3 pick.
Gholston was at worst going 7th before any workouts......

And I said I thought he had a excellent chance of going 1st over a month ago.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:56 AM   #79
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Wait a second.

DE is a "luxury we can't afford with the #5 pick" but we can afford to take a "BACKUP PLAN" with that pick?

Come on, suds, that makes no sense.
Granted you make a good point.

Look I don't want to get into a p!ssing match trying to claim that Ryan is my boy. I just mearly said I'd draft him if J Long, Ellis & Dorsey are gone.

But if we drafted Gholston instead of Ryan and those three guys are gone, fine. I really don't have a big problem with that.... I just don't think it's going to happen.

I mean we're talking about the possibility of drafting Gholston if J Long, Ellis & Dorsey are all gone. So essentially we're talking about plan D if the others don't work. It just seems kinda silly to me.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:58 AM   #80
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Granted you make a good point.

Look I don't want to get into a p!ssing match trying to claim that Ryan is my boy. I just mearly said I'd draft him if J Long, Ellis & Dorsey are gone.

But if we drafted Gholston instead of Ryan and those three guys are gone, fine. I really don't have a big problem with that.... I just don't think it's going to happen.

I mean we're talking about the possibility of drafting Gholston if J Long, Ellis & Dorsey are all gone. So essentially we're talking about plan D if the others don't work. It just seems kinda silly to me.
I understand.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:38 AM   #81
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Did you pay any attention to how your team was built?
With guys in the later rounds of the draft and through free angency.....also with first round DLinemen.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:14 AM   #82
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I'd be happy if the Chiefs took Gholston?

I think they have a great chance to get him. Another passrusher wouldn't hurt? I think he is the best passrusher in this draft without a doubt.

In fact, Id be happy with either Ellis, Jake Long, or Gholston? I think those 3 guys are all going to be solid players in the NFL.

I look at Gholston as more of a 3-4 type player, but I don't think that means we shouldn't draft him or take a look at him if he is there at #5?

I think with a guy like him, your defense can do so many things. You can blitz him off the edge, place him as a falcon DE on passing downs...Move Hali to the inside...Or possibly have Gholston, Allen, Hali as your passrushers on 3rd down?

He can play linebacker..And it's not like the Chiefs can't upgrade there? I was very disappointed in Napolen Harris this year. In fact, I think Donnie Edwards should be playing the middle, keep Johnson on the outside, and if you draft a guy like gholston he can play on the outside too.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:28 AM   #83
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:40 AM   #84
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:23 AM   #85
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Dude, was he playing on the line? NO, he was in COVERAGE. He played BOTH LBer AND DE at Ohio State.
I have read a lot of your posts on Vernon and definetely agree with you. He is a beast, and for NJChief or whoever keeps pointing out he got pancaked by a WR, what good player hasn't been de-cleated (see Roidman and Maurice Jones Drew, that was nasty). Gholston is an animal he is relentless. The thing also is Gholston has ran in the high 4.4's and I believe at OSU's pro-day you are going to see some low numbers in the 40. The guy got 37reps on the bench, he tied Jake Long, and Vernon was disappointed because he though he would get at least 40. I would mess my pants if we got him, that would be awesome. Jim Heacock (D Coordinator at tOSU) said he was one of the best athletes he has ever seen at Ohio State, and that is saying a lot. Anyway I would be thrilled if we got him, but if we don't I hope we land someone else who will make a big impact.
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Gholston is a great athlete, too bad he's not a great football player.
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Gholston is a great athlete, too bad he's not a great football player.
Stats, and video tape don't lie. You don't like him and that's apparent, on the other hand that is your opinion, and you know what they say about those.
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Gholston is a great athlete, too bad he's not a great football player.
Weird position.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:24 PM   #89
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Weird position.
He's gotten by on his physical prowess. He's a great athlete. But he's very raw - he only started 25 games. Plus, we all know OSU doesn't have the toughest schedule. He had a good game against Jake Long but was invisible in the national championship; on some plays it looks like he quit.

His first year he'd be a situational pass rusher. With the right coaching and system and his natural ability he could develop into a great football player, I just don't happen to think that he is one yet and there is a risk he never will be. I'm reminded a little bit of Boss Bailey - phenomenal athlete, room to grow, he just never did.
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